Fitness and Nutrition VIII

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  1. waffledave

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    In that case I think you'd have to train a bit at a boxing gym and try to get someone to train you seriously. There are plenty of people who do that but it's not everyone, most people do it for workouts. Plus sometimes finding a coach to train you seriously takes some time, proving your commitment, etc...

    There was a dude that used to post here, Danny, I think he's gone now. Forget his old handle. Ended up hanging out with him a few times, but lost touch. He took up BJJ, ended up being serious about it, and he moved to Saudi Arabia or something like that to train. I am pretty sure he's pro now.
     
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    I dont think Ill ever want to get serious or anything, but if I like something, I kinda become obsessed (Like I am with lifting.) And what to be the best I can be. I don't like doing things casually.
     
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    Post-fatherhood, mine has to be between 2 and 3 sets.
     
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    Is volume simply equal to the product of weight times repetitions times sets?
     
  5. Mrb1p

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    Gotta do what you gotta do. Id say its probably more linked towards your line of work than the fatherhood thing. Are you still managing crazy schedule's?
     
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    Its only equal to the number of sets. You have to set your intensity to fit too.

    Volume and intensity are the only two things your training should respond to. Volume usually goes down as intensity goes up, et vice-versa. Volume is also a function of intensity as you cant handle the high intensity at high volumes without adaptation or massive breakdown.
     
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    So why not just say "number of sets"?
     
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    Yeah, it's still pretty tense at the moment. It should be better in 1-2 years as I'll be changing jobs. I could manage (serious) exercising with just the job or just the family and a regular 9-5 workload, but both is pretty impossible, not without some leizure in there. As I type this I just finished a 7 to 18:00 shift. and will take another hour to finish up some more work before bed time. Friday is going to be a fun one, 7am to 12am. One positive is my scheduling is very thorough, so Ive managed to schedule between 2-4 (short) sessions of hockey/lifting a week without getting wrecked.

    I actually had two weeks of "downtime" during July (like 9-4 or 5 every day) and it felt like I was in heaven.
     
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    Ive worked my fair share of 70s a week and I just cannot anymore. I struggle with 40 hours work week. Once youve touched on having a life, your perspective seems to change. Couldnt imagine having a toddler on top of that.
     
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    Eye roll. Gif

    Because it sounds cool :laugh:
     
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    Yeah, we've had to change a lot of things in our personal and professional life to make it work. My girlfriend changed jobs for less pay, but has around 20 less hours of work obligations and we pay for some chores so we can free time. I don't have any chores at home anymore and we have our whole weekends free now (no groceries to do or anything like that - I just cook because I enjoy it) unless I have work. I take full advantage of my allowed vacations / leaves every year now too. I don't have much control over the actual work hours until I leave, but at least everythings been cut down so it's basically been work and rest/family time with regular off days / vacations sprinkled in, so it's more livable than it was in the past - and I can at least get some exercise in. Any sort of serious hockey or powerlifting commitment is not realistic, though that took me some time to accept.

    One thing though is my diet has improved quite a bit by having a garden (that I've also found a way to invest minimal time in). It's helped me enjoy vegetables to the point I look forward to eating them, something that's always been hard to in the past.
     
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    It's often defined as the sum of repetitions x weight (sets x reps x weight), meaning the total poundage of each workout. Intensity is the % of the 1RM that's being used for each set / repetition, but the body doesn't adapt very well (if at all) to high intensity, high volume workouts. A powerlifting program like Sheiko, for example, has high volume with moderate intensity and is very taxing, likely not made for drug free lifters either. I've tried one with success, but after years of powerlifting, much more total mass and a modification on volume to make it bearable.
     
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    I hate the lack of hardcore gyms in the montreal region. Its all commercial or expensive fit pro 360 diddly doo training.

    Epicentre was cool but it always seemed really disappointing when I stepped in. Little to no ambiance and very little people.

    I dont know if Econofitness/buzztit killed the non commercial gym or if theres just no money in there but it is quite sad.
     
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    I've now used the elliptical in my room about 15 times or so and it's proven helpful. I get in some casual cardio exercise without the overhead of needing to go to and from a gym, change, etc. It also gets me more time to watch TV. I rewatched Infinity War over a few workouts, and I watched a brief JFK documentary, recently.

    The heartrate monitor is fun. When I do the workout in a fed state my heartrate might average 140 or so, but if I do so in a fasted state it can reach and exceed 170. It reminds me if the early 2000s discussion of pre-breakfast cardio -- it is manifestly superior.
     
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    My GF has been laughing at me for a few weeks because she says I have no bicep muscles. It may be time to curl for my girl. If I had a halfway decent bicep peak Id probably be at 19 inches by now.
     
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    Jiu-jitsu is great because you can spare all the time, while I wouldn't recommand sparring in striking at any age (I'm lucky I did my hard sparring as a young man and never got really hit on the head), and judo is a young men sport, you don't want to be thrown on the ground all the time past a certain age, and you got a lot of take down drills in jiu-jitsu.
     
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    Interesting, I've never tested the difference in my heart rate between a fasted and non fasted state. I might have to keep a closer eye on this.
     
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    I think I need more clarity/explanation on the 5x5 method. It just doesn't feel like I'm getting a good work out.

    So far I've found drop sets to be the most effective for me. So for example I'll curl 30 eight times and have a 25 lined up and as soon as my form starts to falter ill instantly drop to the 25 and get about 4 more in.
     
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    The volume is different. DOMS or a pump does not mean you are not getting a workout. A drop set also means alot more total volume than 5x5.

    Your 5x5 intensity may be off. Make sure your weights are heavy enough.

    Anyway 5x5 is very basic and aside from being an adequate introduction to barbell training, it doesnt offer much, imo. Knowing you want mass and strength gains, and you like higher volume work, Id tell you to work into german volume training.
     
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    No more back - knee issues

    And i lost 5-6 pounds . I am now 5’11.5 179 pounds

    Jeez i feel like in a month or so i could start thinking about having abs
     
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    What's your waist size when you buy pants?
     
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    3x5 is superior in every way IMO.
     
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    What I've always hated about these ultra-specific set and rep counts is that you need to know your exact strength and endurance in order to hit failure on the past rep. And if your endurance varies because you ate a different meal that day, slept differently, or if you're doing your exercises out of order because other exercises are being used up by other patrons.

    Like you can't necessarily start with squats, it may be that all 8 squat racks are taken, do then you might do the leg press first, but then that means that there will be less energy left for the squat.
     
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    brb can't walk today second day after bulgarian *split squat drop sets.

    Why is the seconds day after legs the more painful one.
     

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