Fire Pierre Dorion

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I question whether we were ever actually very good at scouting. Puempel, Cowen, Lee, Noesen and the Rundt trade come to mind. And the "games played" metrics of scouting are always skewed for budget teams, which are more likely to ice cheap homegrown talent. The late round homeruns look more like luck than skill.

I thought I read something about Lee was taken against the scouts wishes? Could be wrong but it rings a bell. Noesen was always an injury risk but he had the talent of NHLer, sometimes it pays off like with Hossa, sometimes it doesn't.

 

[Bileur]

Honest question, how has he not quit? If all of these trades are because of Melnyk, why wouldn't he just quit? He's coming out looking like an idiot. Would you be willing to ruin your professional reputation just to appease your boss?

He gets tarred and feathered daily, just a terrible work environment

At this point who would give him another job? Unless he’s ready to retire or return to scouting he’s done as a GM.

 

[GrantLemons]

Honest question, how has he not quit? If all of these trades are because of Melnyk, why wouldn't he just quit? He's coming out looking like an idiot. Would you be willing to ruin your professional reputation just to appease your boss?

He gets tarred and feathered daily, just a terrible work environment

Yea he's totally ruining his chances at grabbing a future GM or even AGM job. But I mean he's in a position that he's extremely lucky to even be in, for a team that he loves in a city that he loves. There's no way he steps down.

He also seems pretty clueless when it comes to organization politics, so it's possible he's just totally oblivious to his image around the league and in the press.

What a horrible, horrible situation this team is in. My god it's bad.

 

[branch]

At this point who would give him another job? Unless he’s ready to retire or return to scouting he’s done as a GM.

Agreed...it's like he would need to resign and take a scouting job somewhere. I really don't think he gets another GM job after his tenure here...

 

[Stuzchuk]

#pleasemelnyksell

 

[Liver King]

Yes please

he is a horrible GM as predicted by many

 

[Sun God Nika]

Bet all of the Murray haters wish they could have him back.

Yes I do

 

[armani]

Fire Melnyk, which will auto fire his jabronies like PD and Lee.

 

[Uchiha]

Bet all of the Murray haters wish they could have him back.

I do.

RIP Murray

 

[Sensung]

Dorion is the symptom, not the cause. #MelnykOut should be the first step.

This my friends it the unvarnished truth!

Any Sens fan that cares about this team should join #Melnykout and work towards pushing this owner out the door.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Bet all of the Murray haters wish they could have him back.

Not me. Murray, although a very nice man, was an awful GM for us. I would have preferred to see a different guy other than Dorion replace Murray. Get Fenton or Brisebois, and maybe someone with some experience like McPhee.

Get some fresh ideas rather than just using someone from a management group that had been here too long.

 

[Spartachat]

I think Dorion is doing well according to his mandate of dumping salary and obeying Melnyk's every word.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Not me. Murray, although a very nice man, was an awful GM for us. I would have preferred to see a different guy other than Dorion replace Murray. Get Fenton or Brisebois, and maybe someone with some experience like McPhee.

Get some fresh ideas rather than just using someone from a management group that had been here too long.

Knowing what you know now without him there you really think he was still an awful GM? He left and the organization fell apart. I think it's obvious he was holding a shit pile together with a string somehow. Hell, he had to stop a drunken Melnyk from entering the damn locker room at one point!

That's stuff in the job description they don't tell you about.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Knowing what you know now without him there you really think he was still an awful GM? He left and the organization fell apart. I think it's obvious he was holding a **** pile together with a string somehow. Hell, he had to stop a drunken Melnyk from entering the damn locker room at one point!

He wasn’t good. We made the playoffs once in nine years. He hired and fired five different coaches. He signed several bad contracts. He did more bad than good.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

He wasn’t good. We made the playoffs once in nine years. He hired and fired five different coaches. He signed several bad contracts. He did more bad than good.

Not sure about that in bold right there, typo?

Anyway, agree to disagree. Knowing what I now know, Bryan Murray is an angel.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

The best thing that Murray has done was keep this organization from going up in flames in the hands of the owner, made it look respectable, and he was also the greatest coach this team has had. Other than that his GMing has left a lot to be desired.

 

[Uchiha]

Not sure about that in bold right there, typo?

Anyway, agree to disagree. Knowing what I now know, Bryan Murray is an angel.

Murray was a bad GM but at least brought respectability to the Sens and was professional. Dorion is a clown.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Murray was a bad GM but at least brought respectability to the Sens and was professional. Dorion is a clown.

He squeezed decency out of complete shit. Seems like some decent GMing to me.

 

[BonkTastic]

We made the playoffs once in nine years.

Uh, no.

There's enough wrong with the org right now that we don't need to be making up more things out of thin air to complain about.

 

[Sensung]

He wasn’t good. We made the playoffs once in nine years. He hired and fired five different coaches. He signed several bad contracts. He did more bad than good.

Feel free to list the 9 years span where the Sens made the playoffs once.

List of Ottawa Senators seasons - Wikipedia

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Guys, Dave knows his stuff, I am pretty sure it was a typo/brain fart.

 

[NorthCoast]

I think Dorion is doing well according to his mandate of dumping salary and obeying Melnyk's every word.

Agreed as many have said. Hard to know what is Dorion and what is Melnyk.

Regardless...all we would end up with is another cheap GM that does what Melnyk wants. At least PD can scout...which is probably pretty useful for a team without you know...scouts.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Not sure about that in bold right there, typo?

Anyway, agree to disagree. Knowing what I now know, Bryan Murray is an angel.

Sorry, I meant won one playoff series in nine years.

He should have been gone in 2011.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Uh, no.

There's enough wrong with the org right now that we don't need to be making up more things out of thin air to complain about.

Typo. My mistake.

 

[Benjamin]

Bet all of the Murray haters wish they could have him back.

Nope. Murray did this terrible in similar situations. Spezza... Ryan/Alfredsson...

 

[BonkTastic]

Typo. My mistake.

Ah, all good.

Apologies if my post came off as abraisive. There's... there's a lot going on in Sens land these days. Lots of people taking an already miserable situation and unnecessarily doubling down on the crazyness.

Last thing we need these days is misinformation.