Fire Pierre Dorion

[swiftwin]

Not when you have an unstable franchise that changes it's direction every 3 months.

1- None of this was before the Turris trade
2- It's Melnyk's fault anyways

The way people around here engage in historical revisionism is pretty appalling.

 

[swiftwin]

It currently has the potential to be the worst move franchise history.

It currently has the potential to be one of the best moves in franchise history. Up there with Spezza/Chara for Yashin.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

It currently has the potential to be one of the best moves in franchise history. Up there with Spezza/Chara for Yashin.

Do you understand how ironic it is to bring up the Yashin trade when discussing the Duchene trade?

 

[swiftwin]

First name Swiftwin, last name Dorion?

I always appreciate the compliments when you guys think I'm knowledgeable enough to be an NHL GM.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

It currently has the potential to be one of the best moves in franchise history. Up there with Spezza/Chara for Yashin.

 

[swiftwin]

Do you understand how ironic it is to bring up the Yashin trade when discussing the Duchene trade?

Do you understand the definition of ironic?

 

[Cosmix]

Man people are so clueless. Sens save 5.3 million on this deal. A deal that had to happen. Do you think this is really what Dorion wanted? Doubtful. He's a job to do and he's paid to do it. His hands are tied. You think you would do better with Eugene? Maybe you are oblivious to how many great hockey minds have come and gone thank to Eugene. He is just doing what he has to do keep his pay check. Can you really blame him? I sure don't. Even if I'd like better deals etc it's truly not his fault the Ottawa mess.

Dorion was part of the management team that has given us: Michalek, Phillips, Greening, Cowen, Phaneuf, Brassard, Thompson and Burrows. He has traded away Zibanejad, Turris, Brassard, and many draft picks. He is not blameless!

He should not have been hired to be GM, nor signed to a 3 year extension. That blame lies with Melnyk.

Both must go.

 

[Cosmix]

Bet all of the Murray haters wish they could have him back.

Not me.

 

[Cosmix]

I question whether we were ever actually very good at scouting. Puempel, Cowen, Lee, Noesen and the Rundt trade come to mind. And the "games played" metrics of scouting are always skewed for budget teams, which are more likely to ice cheap homegrown talent. The late round homeruns look more like luck than skill.

You just nailed it ! Particularly the games played metric!

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It currently has the potential to be one of the best moves in franchise history. Up there with Spezza/Chara for Yashin.

the absolute only way this happens is if we get carolina to cough up svechnikov + A DMAN + WE DRAFT A STUD AT 4.

let go of the optimism man.. this is a mess.just say it.

 

[toxic poster]

Pierre is in way over his head. You would think a guy that has relevant experience & success as scout would be looking to add more draft picks before heading straight into a rebuild?

There's two trades on his resume that don't look like complete garbage at this point, and his FA signings and extensions have been particularly awful for the most part as well. The only part of his job he hasn't completely failed in is drafting... the one area he is actually knowledgeable at. So keep him there, go out and find an actual competent manager to turn this club around. This isn't even a Melnyk thing unless there's an incredible amount of shit being flung behind the scenes because some of these issues are simply asset mismanagement.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Here we go again with the "Dorion should have known Anderson's wife was going to get cancer". You guys are sick.

we were actually in the market for a back up goalie for awhile.....

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Pierre is in way over his head. You would think a guy that has relevant experience & success as scout would be looking to add more draft picks before heading straight into a rebuild?

There's two trades on his resume that don't look like complete garbage at this point, and his FA signings and extensions have been particularly awful for the most part as well. The only part of his job he hasn't completely failed in is drafting... the one area he is actually knowledgeable at. So keep him there, go out and find an actual competent manager to turn this club around. This isn't even a Melnyk thing unless there's an incredible amount of **** being flung behind the scenes because some of these issues are simply asset mismanagement.

were not going into a rebuild

 

[Cosmix]

I think Dorion is doing well according to his mandate of dumping salary and obeying Melnyk's every word.

You forgot to mention the high fives, giddiness, PR spineramas and not least the arse kxxxxxxx !

 

[swiftwin]

we were actually in the market for a back up goalie for awhile.....

Again with the delusional revisionism.

 

[SPF6ty9]

Do you understand the definition of ironic?

Its like rain? On your wedding day?

 

[Tuna99]

Hoffman isn’t a great hockey player so let’s not build him up to be one of the best Sens forwards ever now that he’s gone, he wasn’t, he’s a floater, unchoachabel, obvious locket room cancer and has no natural chemistry with anyone.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Do you understand the definition of ironic?

Is it like rain on your wedding day?

 

[Cosmix]

From my POV one playoff series win under Melnyk is pretty damn impressive!

Hmmmm. Dorion had three in 1 year. Hmmmm.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Again with the delusional revisionism.

regardless.. when you look at gm's track record and you need to be like "HA LOOK HE ACQUIRED AN ADEQUATE BACK UP GOALIE!!" you know theres not much there lol.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Hoffman isn’t a great hockey player so let’s not build him up to be one of the best Sens forwards ever now that he’s gone, he wasn’t, he’s a floater, unchoachabel, obvious locket room cancer and has no natural chemistry with anyone.

you dont want us to say he was good just cuz hes gone but youre here saying hes terrible just because hes gone...

the guys a good player.. if i had to choose between him and boedker and bergman. i choose hoffman. for cicumstances out fo our control, he is gone.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

As Jamie "Noodles" McLennan would say....... "It's a garage sale in Ottawa" !
Dorion better have something up his sleeve!

Expect more bargain prices eh ?

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Hmmmm. Dorion had three in 1 year. Hmmmm.

We need The Patrick Eaves Dorion Brain photo.

 

[Cosmix]

Hoffman isn’t a great hockey player so let’s not build him up to be one of the best Sens forwards ever now that he’s gone, he wasn’t, he’s a floater, unchoachabel, obvious locket room cancer and has no natural chemistry with anyone.

There is some truth to what you said but . . .

Not a “great” hockey player - ok not Gretzky/Lemieux/Howe/Yzerman type of great.

Floater - not all of the time but yes there is some evidence but not a complete floater

Uncoachable - no, but the floater aspect sometimes occurs

Locker rook cancer - no he is not. But there may be an issue with his partner but that is unproven at this time

No natural chemistry with anyone - no he achieved some with Duchene and has achieved some before.

I understand why a trade might be necessary but this trade does not look good at this time.

 

[BatherSeason]

Dorion is better than Murray. Dorion is actually a pretty good GM. There's only a couple moves he's done that were bad.

Looks like the Melnyk/Dorion minions are back on payroll today, seems the money saved in the Hoffman deal has helped you guys out..