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Maybe we should consider firing the guy who keeps hiring the coaches and putting together the teams that flame out in the playoffs.
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Wilson is the only constant on this underachieving team. If anyone should be on the curb in the morning it should be Wilson!
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But TMac, in all of his faults, saw the changes in the style of play going on in the NHL better than PDB.
Sick of this clueless idiot. I hope after this year he gets canned. So many roster choices that are questionable. Scratching Meier who has looked like one of the better forwards...
Don't get me started on the PP
That and Spott is a good enough reason to fire PDB. I listened to Jodie Brazil and Curtis Brown on a pre-game show where they were saying PP does not matter in the playoffs but PK does. What BS. This series would have been different if the Sharks had a playoff caliber PP, and not one from a bottom-dwelling team like they had. What did they do 0/8 in one game? That has to be a playoff record.
I also like your comment about Meier. He was one of the few that kept pressure directly on a Oiler while on defense. Most of his teammates kept on their heals and gave too much time and space to Oilers. It was like they were too worred about Oiler speed and quickness.
PDB needed speed, but he needed to rearrange the lines back in early February when it was clear that Thornton could not produce and was not turning it around. Instead, he sprinkled speed here and there in a rather hapzardly way.
Thornton needed to be moved off the 1st line at that time. Many here were complaining about all of the third wingers to accompany Thornton and Pavelski. However, once just about every winger tried on the 1st line without the desired results.... when does it become clear that the issue may not be that third winger, but Pavelski or Thornton?
To me, statistical average says it so, and my eyes saw it was more Thornton than Pavelski.
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I didn't get my way so I need a scapegoat! Fire the coach!
It's not your night or series when the last of 4 posts go off the inside of the crossbar then off the inside of the post and out. Sharks had a chance to win all 6 of these games and didn't get the bounces. **** happens.
DeBoer is still better than Tmac.
It's not your night or series when the last of 4 posts go off the inside of the crossbar then off the inside of the post and out. Sharks had a chance to win all 6 of these games and didn't get the bounces. **** happens.
DeBoer is still better than Tmac.
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Oh come the **** on. Blaming this series on "bounces" is ludicrous. The Oilers outshot us over the course of the series. They were just as unlucky as we were. McDavid going the entire series without a 5v5 point in particular was just pure bad luck, Vlasic and Braun sure as hell weren't doing anything to influence that with their 40% possession.
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You either seem to have trouble reading or understanding what you're reading.
Not just McDavid, but faster lines as a whole with better linemate matchings. McDavid was not a big contributer in this series, particularly 5v5. It was the overall speed and quickness of others not named McDavid, and PDB's inability to manage the PP teams and the assistant in charge of those teams.
PDB plays more of an older style of checking and clogging on defense to prevent opponents getting a quality shot off. This skews puck possesion stats.
The other problem with PDB's scheme is that he did not put together lines drive pucks to the net. Normally, we're use to seeing that in the 1st line but Thornton never had got it together this season. PDB never had an answer for this, but just kept hoping that Thornton would turn it around at some point.
Instead, they're quick to take a low-percentage shot, and hope for a rebound. But you need speed for that rebound due to the off-sides rule. This also skews those stats.
Same reason why the Kings, being a traditional powerhouse in the CORSI stats, went out golfing for the playoffs.
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"Sharks had a chance to win all 6 of these games and didn't get the bounces" seems to pretty clearly imply you think luck is the reason the team isn't still playing while failing to recognize all the ways the Oilers got unlucky too. The fact is it was a pretty evenly played series and DeBoer icing sensible lineups from Game 1 would have made a big difference at the margins. McLellan certainly did that.
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Sharks hit 4 posts last night, including the crossbar/post late. Add the fact Klefbom hit that seeing eye bomb in game 5 to send it to ot. Not getting bounces isn't saying they were the better team or that Edmonton also didn't have unlucky breaks.
5 of these games went to the wire, Oilers won 4 of them. Same as the Sharks and Kings series last year, except the Sharks got the bounces late in games last year. It happens.
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What's the point of pointing out the Sharks didn't get the bounces if not to make the argument that they were the unluckier team? And hitting posts is not the be-all, end-all of luck in hockey. McDavid going six games without a 5v5 point is something that's probably never happened in his entire career before, it's absolutely luck that it happened to occur in this series. And the Sharks couldn't take advantage of that in large part due to DeBoer's incompetent line construction and terrible special teams.
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It wasn't luck with McDavid. The Sharks gave up possession with his line in exchange for taking his space and time away. Outside of one rush in game 2, he had next to no chances in transition, where he's at his best.
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Dude, he had like two partial breakaways in Game 1 along with countless other passes that Draisaitl and especially Maroon just flubbed.
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No breaks and transitons from game one on is a win.
Draisaitl was garbage until game 5 and Maroon simply isn't that good.
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Realistically, Deboer probably doesn't get fired until the end of next season. I don't think DW is one to do the midseason firing but if he was, Roy Sommer interim head coach woo.
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It's very hard to judge pdb because of the injury situation. That simply created a no win scenario and from that standpoint what they did do could possibly be considered a success. No team realistically survives the kneecapping of its top two centers. Not in this era.
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