Player Discussion Filip Chytil

[Harbour Dog]

Meh. He's barely 19, was taken 21st overall just 17 months ago, and has played more NHL games than all but the first and second pick from that draft; I'm not concerned at all.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Can we just send him down? He doesn't even get double digits of TOI with Howden missing half the game. What's the point of him playing 7-8 minutes a night?

 

[Ori]

Yes Chytil need to be sent down or get more ice time in NHL.

 

[SA16]

He doesn’t need to go down he just needs to play with actual NHL players and not Cody McLeod

 

[Jayan]

I Agree, unless he gets more time on a diff line he should be sent down to build confidence, get TOI and play together with future teammates.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

He doesn’t need to go down he just needs to play with actual NHL players and not Cody McLeod

Sure, but that's not happening. I prefer to see him in the AHL playing 15-20 minutes a night in a big role instead of what has happened recently.

 

[SA16]

I don't think there is any need for him to play in the AHL now that his 10 games have passed. He's already shown that he can be a very good AHL player. I don't think he will learn anything being a PPG player at a lesser level. For every player that you can point as being "ruined" by playing limited minutes in the NHL early I'm sure you can find another that turned out just fine. He can learn more just getting acclimated to the NHL and hopefully eventually get more ice time. Either way McLeod shouldn't be on the team playing with him.

Anyway, outside of Zibanejad and McLeod among forward, there is only a 2 min 5v5 TOI difference/game between their most and least TOI players.

 

[redwhiteandblue]

Not sure he needs to be in the AHL and I can boogie with why maybe he went to the 4L to get him back at center but they need to find a way to get him legitimate minutes with legitimate NHL guys. If not, then send him down and bring Foggy up.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Just wonderful, gotta send him down if they're gonna keep doing this

 

[RangerBoy]

Chytil is alternating on the 4th line with Nieves

 

[Off Sides]

I don't think there is any need for him to play in the AHL now that his 10 games have passed. He's already shown that he can be a very good AHL player. I don't think he will learn anything being a PPG player at a lesser level. For every player that you can point as being "ruined" by playing limited minutes in the NHL early I'm sure you can find another that turned out just fine. He can learn more just getting acclimated to the NHL and hopefully eventually get more ice time. Either way McLeod shouldn't be on the team playing with him.

Anyway, outside of Zibanejad and McLeod among forward, there is only a 2 min 5v5 TOI difference/game between their most and least TOI players.

I think one reason would be to not have him on the NHL roster for 40 NHL game days. That is the threshold for whether or not this season counts towards 1 of the 7 accrued NHL seasons he'd need to reach UFA status. Since he is 19 he either need to reach 7 of those seasons or to be 27 year old to reach UFA status.

I don't think there is any benefit to him reaching UFA at age 26 instead of 27 given this is a rebuilding season and he is not playing a whole lot, but I assume either I am wrong or the Rangers thought it all out already and I am missing something.

 

[Kovalev27]

That’s a joke. Howden out and he’s still on the 4th line?

No way enough of this already do your job gorton.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Hes on the power play so he isn't scratched. But come on, Howden out and he still can't get top 9 minutes? Smh

 

[Tawnos]

I think one reason would be to not have him on the NHL roster for 40 NHL game days. That is the threshold for whether or not this season counts towards 1 of the 7 accrued NHL seasons he'd need to reach UFA status. Since he is 19 he either need to reach 7 of those seasons or to be 27 year old to reach UFA status.

I don't think there is any benefit to him reaching UFA at age 26 instead of 27 given this is a rebuilding season and he is not playing a whole lot, but I assume either I am wrong or the Rangers thought it all out already and I am missing something.

It's not going to matter. Either Chytil's next contract will expire when he's a UFA or he will be a bust (and I think it will be the former). They're not bridging him.

 

[Tawnos]

That’s a joke. Howden out and he’s still on the 4th line?

No way enough of this already do your job gorton.

Chytil's been playing well on the 4th line. Maybe the coach doesn't want to interrupt the good habits he's creating just yet. Understandable, I think.

 

[Off Sides]

It's not going to matter. Either Chytil's next contract will expire when he's a UFA or he will be a bust (and I think it will be the former). They're not bridging him.

So then his 26 year old season will cost the same whether he is slated to be a UFA or RFA for it as long as it's wrapped up in a longer contract?

Seems like if I were his agent I'd probably demand more for that UFA year than I would if it was a RFA year.

 

[Tawnos]

So then his 26 year old season will cost the same whether he is slated to be a UFA or RFA for it as long as it's wrapped up in a longer contract?

Seems like if I were his agent I'd probably demand more for that UFA year than I would if it was a RFA year.

That's not the way long-term 2nd contracts have been working. The leverage of the UFA season doesn't seem to be as important as cost vs production on those deals.

 

[Off Sides]

That's not the way long-term 2nd contracts have been working. The leverage of the UFA season doesn't seem to be as important as cost vs production on those deals.

Just to try to understand what you are saying,

Chytil is already open to signing away how many of his UFA years off his entry level?

 

[Tawnos]

Just to try to understand what you are saying,

Chytil is already open to signing away how many of his UFA years off his entry level?

If his second contract is max term, it will take him to 29. So 2 or 3, depending on the rest of this year (I'd assume 2).

 

[Kovalev27]

Chytil's been playing well on the 4th line. Maybe the coach doesn't want to interrupt the good habits he's creating just yet. Understandable, I think.

Yeah really wouldn’t want to interrupt that chemistry and 8 mins a night.

 

[Off Sides]

If his second contract is max term, it will take him to 29. So 2 or 3, depending on the rest of this year (I'd assume 2).

So they are letting him have the option of hitting the open market as a 28 year old?

And what if he says he will not sign for 6 or 7 years? Are they going to be okay if he holds out as a non arbitration eligible RFA without offering a bridge deal of some type?

 

[Doctyl]

Yeah really wouldn’t want to interrupt that chemistry and 8 mins a night.

Can’t mess with his development into a fine 4th line grinder

 

[Irishguy42]

Can’t mess with his development into a fine 4th line grinder

That's not how that works

 

[Tawnos]

Yeah really wouldn’t want to interrupt that chemistry and 8 mins a night.

That literally has nothing to do with what I said.

So they are letting him have the option of hitting the open market as a 28 year old?

And what if he says he will not sign for 6 or 7 years? Are they going to be okay if he holds out as a non arbitration eligible RFA without offering a bridge deal of some type?

Pretty much all of the better players are looking at having their first time as UFAs be sometime between 27 and 29 now. Most of them never even make it there. Seguin, for example. You don't see a lot of top-end players signing 2-4 year second contracts and then signing long-term third contracts as RFAs that expire when they're 30-31. That's the nature of signing guys to long-term deals off their ELC. The benefit to it is that you are getting them locked in for their most productive seasons and you can plan long-term around that. There's been a shift.

Also, that he *might* hold out sometime in the nebulous future really has no bearing on this. For one thing, no GM is ever going to negotiate thinking that he won't be able to make the next deal happen. Too much ego. For another, you can't have a solid team building plan that way.

 

[CasusBelli]

More and more he’s looking like a supremely talented player who might not put it all together. I’m not writing him off, and I’m well aware of his age and that players develop at different rates, but I’m not as bullish on him as I was. The trajectory just doesn’t leave me thinking “wow”.