Prospect Info: Filip Chlapik - potential
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Clayonator
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I’m terms of potential impact, Tierney reminds me of a Craig Conroy/Brendan Morrison/Daymond Lankow type centre. Does everything well but not elitely, as well as compliment and even put up solid points when centering star players like Stone and probably Tkachuk.
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Xspyrit
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One thing to consider though is no matter where the pick ends up, AT LEAST it won’t be in the Eastern conference
So it won’t be that we gave up a pretty good prospect to a rival, but more the missed opportunity to add him to our pool.
That’s why you absolutely have to extend Duchene (or at least get a very solid return, like Brassard’s x 2). I don’t mind replacing Turris by Duchene. I liked Turris but Duchene is a clear upgrade in my mind. I don’t mind not having Bowers and a 3rd is a 3rd. If it was just Turris + Bowers + 3rd, I’d say that it was a homerun trade but giving up a pretty good chance to draft a great/good prospect sucks. That’s why forcing a « FULL » rebuild right now is infuriating, they should have done everything possible to make the team as competitive as possible, including holding onto EK until the trade deadline if there was no choice to trade him.
Acquiring Duchene was an « all-in » type of move, you can’t revert back to a completely different plan 10 months later. Dorion is just not capable of standing to Melnyk and say « listen, it’s too late to go back, we gave up our 1st next year so we have to go with this core »
Melnyk « managing » the team is the most damaging thing possible, an owner should only hire the best people possible and for the rest, stay quiet and cheer on his team, and thanking the fans. Don’t share all your thoughts and frustration. And also give a decent budget to your GM to be able to compete (our salary expenditure should be ~ 70 M$ this year and not like 58 M$... Melnyk is just covering his losses as much as possible, but in the end, he’ll probably lose as much if not more in ticket/merchandise sales
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bert
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Not a chance in hell.
Probably? Based on what? He has never scored as much as Pageau, was a worse prospect coming up. Pageau has proven to be a playoff beast. Pageau has 12 goals in 35 playoff games Tierney has 12 points in 40. He certainly isnt as hard on the puck as Pageau and has never hit nearly as much, has worse numbers in the dot. Literally is worse in every way. How do people come to these conclusions?
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Pageau is a better player than Tierney.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Lol you better be right cause nothing I saw in pre-season indicated anything close to this.
BondraTime
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It's pre season, guys with guaranteed spots shouldn't be evaluated until the real games start.
In saying that, Tierny certainly wasn't helping his cause.
He's certainly not better than Pageau though, I'm not sure how anyone could come to that conclusion.
In saying that, Tierny certainly wasn't helping his cause.
He's certainly not better than Pageau though, I'm not sure how anyone could come to that conclusion.
The only thing that jumps out is Pageau's point totals have declined year to year over the past 3 seasons while Tierney's have improved. But yeah, I don't think any GM in the league would take Tierney over Pageau on their team.
BonkTastic
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I'm reserving any judgement on the Tierney vs Pageau debate until I see 40 games out of Tierney in a Sens uniform.
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BondraTime
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I mean, I literally said in the post you quoted that you can't use pre season to evaluate guys...so nice work.
I'd be willing to bet I've seen just as much/more than yourself.
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Get to know your Ottawa Senators prospects: Filip Chlapik
"At 6-foot-1 and 196 pounds, he has the size to be an NHL player but since the Sens have so many prospects and players trying to find a spot in the lineup it will be very difficult for him to find quality minutes in the NHL.
It seems the management is giving him one more year to prove himself before they make the ultimate decision on where his future lies – be it with the Senators organisation or elsewhere."
"At 6-foot-1 and 196 pounds, he has the size to be an NHL player but since the Sens have so many prospects and players trying to find a spot in the lineup it will be very difficult for him to find quality minutes in the NHL.
It seems the management is giving him one more year to prove himself before they make the ultimate decision on where his future lies – be it with the Senators organisation or elsewhere."
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I hope he gets the 1C spot in Belleville ahead of Norris (Brown in Ottawa). His performance will go along way with helping the Sens deceive what to do with Pager and CT.
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I don't think he is. Pageau had a major injury last season. Otherwise, when Pageau has been healthy he has made everyone he plays with better... even Bobby (mash potato hands) Ryan
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I have a really hard time seeing him becoming a center on this team moving forward. He''ll always be behind Brown and White (imo) and is easily behind Tierney moving forward as well. I also don't think he's as good as Norris and if the Sens bottom out and add a Byfield/Lundell/Rossi he'll have even more competition at C.
I doubt it plays out this way, since Belleville will need centers this season, but I'd love to see what Chlapik can do on the wing, because if he's going to carve out a role for himself in this organization that's where it will be, imo.
I doubt it plays out this way, since Belleville will need centers this season, but I'd love to see what Chlapik can do on the wing, because if he's going to carve out a role for himself in this organization that's where it will be, imo.
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I think Chlapik will bounce back this year and be one of the top players in Belleville. I think he was hampered by injury last year. He had a great training camp last year.
czechcanadian
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I remember watching him in pre-season for sens last year. He looked like the best player on the ice most games.
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Up to 4 points in 8 games. Seems to be like a very steady player who definitely deserves to be in the NHL.
TheDebater
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I do not think Tierney will ever string as good a group of games as Pageau currently is together, but I also do not think Tierney is as bad as he has played so far this season. He can definitely be better and has shown it, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt until the 20 game mark, but he really really has to step his game up.
Either way I would definitely trade him at the deadline, even if he does light it up, I do not see a fit long term here, plus we have enough centers on this team.
As for Chlapik, he is doing pretty good with what he has been given considering he has played on the 4th line all year. He definitely has more potential than a 4th liner but there is no rush for him to do anything drastic, just keep improving bit by bit.
