Injury Report: Feb. 10: Shayne Gostisbehere, practiced, could play in early March (Nov. 8, torn ACL)

Mayo Masseuse

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Whoa. I guess they were serious about him possibly playing again this season.

Wow, the Flyers medical staff are something else.

"Hey, uh, you know how reinjury is most common in weeks 6-12 after ACLR surgery."

"Yea?"

"Let's put him on the ****in' ice during those weeks."

I hope I am wrong, but damn it feels like they are going to mess this kid up.
 

Beef Invictus

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Wow, the Flyers medical staff are something else.

"Hey, uh, you know how reinjury is most common in weeks 6-12 after ACLR surgery."

"Yea?"

"Let's put him on the ****in' ice during those weeks."

I hope I am wrong, but damn it feels like they are going to mess this kid up.

Flyers hockey.
 

Striiker

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Not worried about him being rushed. They're being so careful about developing the players, they're not going to rush him back unless he's ready.
 

flyershockey

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I doubt McCrossin has much of a say when he comes back. I'm sure it's up to a specialist to make the determination on when his knee is strong enough to start skating again. At least I would hope that's how it works.
 

Mayo Masseuse

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Generally, until the surgeon signs off, it's really not in the trainer's realm yet.

The surgeon doesn't hold Ghost's hand during the rehab, though.

The day by day is guided by Jimbo.

I think what Beef, and myself, are saying is that Jimbo's track record is not promising.
Furthermore, it definitely does not hurt Ghost to take more time to come back. It can, however, really affect him should he come back too soon.

That being said perhaps he received the very best single surgery ever. I wouldn't know. I am just worried due to my confidence in the medical staff being shattered.
 

Striiker

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The development is a Hextall thing, though; this is a McCrossin thing, yes?

I would think that whatever specialist Ghost went to for the surgery would have the say of when he's ready to start skating again. I don't think McCrossin would have that much to do with this. The specialist is probably in contact with Ghost, McCrossin, and Hextall, so it's not like McCrossin is making decisions on his own.
 

Beef Invictus

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I would think that whatever specialist Ghost went to for the surgery would have the say of when he's ready to start skating again. I don't think McCrossin would have that much to do with this. The specialist is probably in contact with Ghost, McCrossin, and Hextall, so it's not like McCrossin is making decisions on his own.

I don't know, this is an organization where the goalie coach took it upon himself to.become the fitness expert with Bryz. And McCrossin has already used a loophole to avoid testing a clearly concussed Schenn for a concussion, allowing him to play. I have zero doubt Jimmy would consider doing things his own reckless way.

Maybe he'll have Ghost lay in a hotel bathtub after his knee starts hurting, that ought to fix it.
 

Larry44

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The surgeon doesn't hold Ghost's hand during the rehab, though.

The day by day is guided by Jimbo.

I think what Beef, and myself, are saying is that Jimbo's track record is not promising.
Furthermore, it definitely does not hurt Ghost to take more time to come back. It can, however, really affect him should he come back too soon.

That being said perhaps he received the very best single surgery ever. I wouldn't know. I am just worried due to my confidence in the medical staff being shattered.

We don't know the extent of the tear in Gost's knee or the difficulty of the repair, so we aren't really in a position to judge his recovery timeline, at all. On top of that, the Flyers have NO interest in rushing his knee any faster than it is healing, so why all the suspicion.

People pick on McCrossin without any evidence. He gets slagged, but he apparently helped Read play through a foot injury earlier in the year. Does he get credit when he keeps guys with hidden injuries in the lineup?
 

Curufinwe

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Yeah, I can't get too worried about them rushing Ghost back when there's no incentive to do so.
 

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We don't know the extent of the tear in Gost's knee or the difficulty of the repair, so we aren't really in a position to judge his recovery timeline, at all. On top of that, the Flyers have NO interest in rushing his knee any faster than it is healing, so why all the suspicion.

People pick on McCrossin without any evidence. He gets slagged, but he apparently helped Read play through a foot injury earlier in the year. Does he get credit when he keeps guys with hidden injuries in the lineup?

Considering Read did more harm than good, shouldn't he have NOT been playing?
 

Jumping

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Just a thought... resuming skating is not resuming playing.

For an ACL injury, skating would be excellent rehab. Used to be - and I go back to the 80's with my knee surgery - they would put heavy socks on us and have you "skate" on a Teflon coated slide. Strengthens quads and gluts which are the best protection you can have against re-injury.
 

FLYguy3911

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not really. Going out and having a light skate is not a problem. I doubt he's going out there and busting his ass in full equipment

Yeah I think people confuse skating with actually playing. He's probably just doing light skating, straight-line stuff.
 

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