i know all deadline deals involving vancouver ends up horribly. last year was decent hamonic for a third. dermott for a third motte for a 4th? i beleive.Dude you are going to be very disappointed come TDL
i know all deadline deals involving vancouver ends up horribly. last year was decent hamonic for a third. dermott for a third motte for a 4th? i beleive.Dude you are going to be very disappointed come TDL
i'm willing to believe boeser has some value but the reports earlier this year that the team gave his agent permission to seek a deal makes me think teams aren't exactly beating down their door. why on earth would they risk blowing up what looks like a lifeline from heaven for getting out from boeser's deal over getting an additional pick back?
Fully understand. the idea from NJ's standpoint..Acquiring Johnsson with a pick so NJ has more room to make a bigger move. It’s all about the contract and not the player.
I simply dont get why NJ wouldnt just use Holtz in a bigger deal
Who said anything about picks? Nobody. You shop him and see what you can get, if the return is good enough you trade him. It's not that complicated.
Nobody is saying give him away for nothing. There's also no reason to be particularly attached to him if someone is willing to overpay.
I'm actually a bit surprised you have such a strong opinion on this.
Kuzmenko is going to be 27 when he signs his next deal, which will mostly likely be north of 5m x3y. I'm sorry, but there is no world where we are going to be contenders in the next 3 years. Getting back a late first or two 2nds for him isn't as much about the pure value as just having capspace and chips to play. Imagine where this team would be if we had two spare 2nds and 5m in cap space back when the Isles had to move Toews.
We are crammed up against the cap and no one is going to relieve of us OEL - although perhaps they might listen if we add in that first we could get for Kuz?
I love Kuzmenko, and it's been fun watching him gel with Petey, but this is about asset management, somewhere the Canucks have failed at every turn in the past decade. Time to tear off the bandaid and do this right.
From this management group, I am not holding my breath on anything big..When all is said and done,,Horvat will still be a Canuck.Dude you are going to be very disappointed come TDL
Carlo is not a realistic piece, why would Boston do this, especially considering how good they have been?
He’s one of the best shut down D in the league
A buyout of Garland will have a cap hit into the 2028/29 season-- 2 yrs @ $838,889, then 1 yr @ $1,838,889 and final 3 yrs @ $1,888,889.how tf are they gonna buy out garland instead of oel. blows my mind.
2023-24 | $10,500,000 | $8,250,000 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | $8,083,333 | $146,667 | $20,000 |
2024-25 | $8,000,000 | $8,250,000 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | $5,583,333 | $2,346,667 | $320,000 |
2025-26 | $5,250,000 | $8,250,000 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | $2,833,333 | $4,766,667 | $650,000 |
2026-27 | $5,250,000 | $8,250,000 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | $2,833,333 | $4,766,667 | $650,000 |
2027-28 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | -$2,416,667 | $2,126,667 | $290,000 |
2028-29 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | -$2,416,667 | $2,126,667 | $290,000 |
2029-30 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | -$2,416,667 | $2,126,667 | $290,000 |
2030-31 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $2,416,667 | $2,416,667 | -$2,416,667 | $2,126,667 | $290,000 |
Doubly so when they’ve said and it’s been reported how they know they’ll have to take a loss. Holtz + Johnsson for Boeser (retained) isn’t even close to a loss.
A buyout of Garland will have a cap hit into the 2028/29 season-- 2 yrs @ $838,889, then 1 yr @ $1,838,889 and final 3 yrs @ $1,888,889.
OEL would go into the 2030/31 season ;
Cap hit- second from the right column.
2023-24 $10,500,000 $8,250,000 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 $8,083,333 $146,667 $20,000 2024-25 $8,000,000 $8,250,000 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 $5,583,333 $2,346,667 $320,000 2025-26 $5,250,000 $8,250,000 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 $2,833,333 $4,766,667 $650,000 2026-27 $5,250,000 $8,250,000 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 $2,833,333 $4,766,667 $650,000 2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 -$2,416,667 $2,126,667 $290,000 2028-29 $0 $0 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 -$2,416,667 $2,126,667 $290,000 2029-30 $0 $0 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 -$2,416,667 $2,126,667 $290,000 2030-31 $0 $0 $0 $2,416,667 $2,416,667 -$2,416,667 $2,126,667 $290,000
$14,791,336 in cap hit, spread over 8 yrs- for a guy to not play for you, then you have to figure out the cap hit of the guy that replaces him. and add it to the total cap hit.
Best case scenario, OEL decides to retire, but not many people walk away from that kind of money- $29 million over the next 4yrs.
with just under $70 mill in career earnings, maybe just maybe he does what Markus Naslund did- but I doubt it.