Speculation: Fantasy GM and Rumor Roundup Thread | "Trader Jim" gearing up for TDL

[elitepete]

Rutherford is the same person who badly overpaid for Zucker. I know Canucks fans are excited about him, but he's not that good.

What does this have to do with the fact that multiple insiders are saying the Canucks will get a 1st + top prospect +

 

[MS]

Rutherford is the same person who badly overpaid for Zucker. I know Canucks fans are excited about him, but he's not that good.

I’m not sure what you’re here arguing.

If your GM doesn’t want to trade any of your best 5 young assets that’s fine but there is zero chance that JT Miller will end up on your team if that’s the case.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

What does this have to do with the fact that multiple insiders are saying the Canucks will get a 1st + top prospect +

Respectfully, for every team in the nhl, media people exaggerate! They said Zucker wouldn't get a 1st

 

[timw33]

Advice to fans of teams with good teams that have a shot to make a push, but are coming here to say that their top prospects are definitively off the table: buzz off!

This comes from someone who deeply, deeply, regrets not trading more futures/picks/top prospects to bolster our team for the 2 seasons where we were truly excellent. We should have sent whatever it took to acquire Jeff Carter in 11-12.

 

[timw33]

Rutherford is the same person who badly overpaid for Zucker. I know Canucks fans are excited about him, but he's not that good.

Rutherford realized that his team was good now and there was zero point in holding onto what is usually a late-1st when you have a few more seasons of Crosby Malkin Letang core left. This is what you should do when your team is good and can make a meaningful push.

 

[elitepete]

Respectfully, for every team in the nhl, media people exaggerate! They said Zucker wouldn't get a 1st

This is nonsense. If Miller gets traded to the Wild, Canucks will be getting a top prospect(s) and draft pick(s).

 

[MS]

Respectfully, for every team in the nhl, media people exaggerate! They said Zucker wouldn't get a 1st

If Zucker got a first and a good prospect, what do you think an 80-point #1C on a bargain contract will command?

 

[heisenbergsitti]

If Zucker got a first and a good prospect, what do you think an 80-point #1C on a bargain contract will command?

He overpay and people laughed @ him for this. Very curious sincerely why people use one bad trade as a measuring stick?

 

[heisenbergsitti]

This is nonsense. If Miller gets traded to the Wild, Canucks will be getting a top prospect(s) and draft pick(s).

Respectfully then it won't be from us. Our gm just like Edmonton made it clear he has no interest in parting with picks or prospect

 

[Josepho]

He overpay and people laughed @ him for this. Very curious sincerely why people use one bad trade as a measuring stick?

What trades would you use as a measuring stick?

Duchene/Coleman seem to be the best examples I've seen mentioned on this board. They both got big hauls and neither are as valuable as Miller with possible cap retention.

 

[Josepho]

Like, Minnesota in particular should be all over this, probably more so than any other team in the league.

Kaprizov needs a better C in the worst way imaginable, tons of prospects to spare, not exactly a desirable UFA destination.

If they're tired of being the 13th best team in the league and being outed in the first round, they'll roll the dice on this.

 

[elitepete]

What trades would you use as a measuring stick?

Duchene/Coleman seem to be the best examples I've seen mentioned on this board. They both got big hauls and neither are as valuable as Miller with possible cap retention.

Exactly. Take the Coleman trade and add another 1st round pick (or something of value equivalent to a 1st) on top of it.

 

[Red]

Respectfully then it won't be from us. Our gm just like Edmonton made it clear he has no interest in parting with picks or prospect

Ok so like why are you here?

"Respectfully", Miller is getting a 1st + top prospect at the very least. It might be from your team, it might not, but that's the rumor which we are discussing. If you're not willing to pay, doesn't mean your GM isn't, and if your GM isn't, doesn't mean someone else won't.

 

[BWJM]

Getting Boldy or Rossi would be incredible lol. Come on Wild bite.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I mean it’s obvious that Rossi or boldy won’t be moved… nor would wallstadt. Those 3 are arguably their best prospects. To say you aren’t trading lambos too who is like 4-5 on their depth chart is a bit ridiculous. Perhaps they should aim lower for Henrique then.

Said well above, if you have a legitimate shot for a cup run then take it and run. To save a prospect who isn’t even at top of the food chain won’t get you too far (or at least not fetch the top grade players to help).

 

[rypper]

Best thing we could get from Minnesota in trade is signing Brackett as AGM.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Wild aren't going to trade Rossi, boldy, wallstedt or Marat Khusnutdinov. None of those prospect will be on table for wild or lambos

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Wild are really limiting their trade options hahaha. Good luck rolling with Hartman as your top centre.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Wild are really limiting their trade options hahaha. Good luck rolling with Hartman as your top centre.

Mind boggling how fans want to just hold on to their prospects and not upgrade their team. Never gunna win that way

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Mind boggling how fans want to just hold on to their prospects and not upgrade their team. Never gunna win that way

I mean get wanting to keep all of them… but need to weigh the pros of getting an impact player to go on a cup run. None of those prospects listed will get you there in the next few seasons. Plus wild need a top centre so badly! You got to give to get.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I mean get wanting to keep all of them… but need to weigh the pros of getting an impact player to go on a cup run. None of those prospects listed will get you there in the next few seasons. Plus wild need a top centre so badly! You got to give to get.

Exactly. With the exception of Rossi there should be no prospect off the table

 

[canuckking1]

Wild are really limiting their trade options hahaha. Good luck rolling with Hartman as your top centre.

Fun fact. Hartman has almost double the amount of 5v5 points that Miller does this season.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

If we’re dealing Miller, I’d like him out of our conference ideally - if New York is hot and heavy, I’d start there. Something including Lafreniere coming back - give the kid a chance with a change of scenery to see if he can re-discover his game.

Colorado would be an interesting trade partner, especially if Byram could come back - I know there’s a concussion issue, but hopefully it’s one he can bounce back from. But again, I’d like Miller out of our conference.

Hard no to Calgary.

 

[God]

If we’re dealing Miller, I’d like him out of our conference ideally - if New York is hot and heavy, I’d start there. Something including Lafreniere coming back - give the kid a chance with a change of scenery to see if he can re-discover his game.

Colorado would be an interesting trade partner, especially if Byram could come back - I know there’s a concussion issue, but hopefully it’s one he can bounce back from. But again, I’d like Miller out of our conference.

Hard no to Calgary.

I don't think Colorado can afford to keep Miller, and barring a miracle the Canucks won't be in a position to contend for a Stanley Cup next year, so I think it's ok to send him there. Agree on Calgary, and the pieces that would come back from NYR/COL make more sense for the Canucks.

 

[canuckking1]

I wonder if Calgary puts a huge offer on the table for Miller to help convince Tkachuk/Gaudreau to stay and sign extensions. A long playoff run would certainly help and I don't really care about in-division trades.