Exit interviews thread

[ADHB]

The Sabres have been awful for 7 or 8 seasons in a row. Half the players they acquired through the draft due to such “strategic” tanking won’t even be on the roster in a few years, if they’re not gone already. Anyone who gives Buffalo credit for being smart in anything they’ve done is whining just to whine.

 

[Mortal Wombat]

Which we haven’t. We’re still riding the coat tails of old ass Getzlaf. Giving horrible contracts out to Eaves and Kessler. Sticking bandaids on and hopefully making a playoff spot.

Guess what? It doesn’t work. Rangers and Buffalo are bringing in a lot of NHL talent this year and next year all young and formidable NHL ready talent. Along with there firsts this year as well.

Ducks haven’t done that. They hope for a 6th to 8th seed lose in the first round and miss out on top 5-10 pick.

While Buffalo and Rangers get better in there rebuilding phase, which Anaheim should have been doing all along.

But hey Division and Conference titles mean something right? You’re still not a Stanley cup champion at the end of the day. Those banners are basically a participation trophy.

Old ass Getzlaf had a puck
E-I-E-I-O
And that puck he passed to Silf
E-I-E-I-O
And then it was oh ah here
And oh ah there
Here an oh, there an ah
Everywhere just oh ah
Old ass Getzlaf had a puck
E-I-E-I'll get my coat

 

[Teemu Salami]

Which we haven’t. We’re still riding the coat tails of old ass Getzlaf. Giving horrible contracts out to Eaves and Kessler. Sticking bandaids on and hopefully making a playoff spot.

Guess what? It doesn’t work. Rangers and Buffalo are bringing in a lot of NHL talent this year and next year all young and formidable NHL ready talent. Along with there firsts this year as well.

Ducks haven’t done that. They hope for a 6th to 8th seed lose in the first round and miss out on top 5-10 pick.

While Buffalo and Rangers get better in there rebuilding phase, which Anaheim should have been doing all along.

But hey Division and Conference titles mean something right? You’re still not a Stanley cup champion at the end of the day. Those banners are basically a participation trophy.

I don’t understand why a rebuild has to be all or nothing. Not only will we make the playoffs before those 2 teams, but we have plenty of young players growing under old ass Getzlaf and we’re adding to it. We have a beast of a goalie at 25 years old which neither of those teams have, and we have 2 promising goalie prospects coming. To me that is promising for being a contender.

But yeah, shame we don’t have Eichel and Kakko. Life is just so difficult!

Let’s say we have a real coach to develope under and draft 8, 20, and 38...

New prospects (totally picked out of a hat): Zegras, Seider, whoever Madden likes early in the second

Totally not part of a “youth movement”: Steel, Comtois, Terry, Jones Sprong, Mahura, Larsson, Guhle, and The ghost of Emerson Etem’s career,

Before their prime but not 18 so they suck: Lindholm, Rakell, Kase... Ritchie.

Good nhl players to get us to the playoffs and help transition young talent: Yup we got those.

To be clear i don’t hate what some of those tanking teams are building such as New York and their army of russians, but I despise all this doom and gloom as background noise while I’m watching us develope late round prospects better than nearly every team. Those guys definitely don’t count towards a rebuild. Totally

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

But hey Division and Conference titles mean something right? You’re still not a Stanley cup champion at the end of the day. Those banners are basically a participation trophy.

League should be one champion and 30 teams in constant rebuild mode.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Murray has a better than even chance of ending up in the hall of fame, and a lot of people are going to fall over dead with internet outrage when it happens.

Yes, but he’s had exceptionally poor judgement on a lot of levels this season. Doesn’t mean he won’t be good next year, but he’s been acting like his emotions have been clouding his judgement since the Sharks series. His statements about not knowing what kind of players he had (both before and after taking over the HC position) also make him seem pretty damned out of touch with his own organization.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Yes, but he’s had exceptionally poor judgement on a lot of levels this season. Doesn’t mean he won’t be good next year, but he’s been acting like his emotions have been clouding his judgement since the Sharks series. His statements about not knowing what kind of players he had (both before and after taking over the HC position) also make him seem pretty damned out of touch with his own organization.

A lot of poor decisions have to be made for a year to turn out like this one did, and this is fully his team, so yeah. There's no way he comes out of a season like this looking good. He's got a really bad habit of waiting way too long to fire coaches.

 

[Deuce22]

Any "fan" who is only satisfied if their team wins a Stanley Cup doesn't understand sports or human nature. Players, coaches, and GM are trying to win games. Fans who attend games are hoping their team wins that night. If one fanbase is happy each year and 30 are pissed, the sport is not worth watching. Become an Oiler fan, you'll be in the tank every year with them.

 

[IDuck]

just watched the interview...and IMO he was talking about miller and possibly gibson aswell.

 

[405Exit]

The Sabres have been awful for 7 or 8 seasons in a row. Half the players they acquired through the draft due to such “strategic” tanking won’t even be on the roster in a few years, if they’re not gone already. Anyone who gives Buffalo credit for being smart in anything they’ve done is whining just to whine.

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

just watched the interview...and IMO he was talking about miller and possibly gibson aswell.

Yeah I think so, too. Especially Miller. "He was great...when he played."

 

[MMC]

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

Girgensons is 15-20 point 4th liner. What a weird name to throw out there. If you're seriously acting like they're in a better situation than we are because they have him as their 2nd premier forward, you're even more clueless than I thought.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

Wait, you want to tank for a decade so that we can have a Girgensons in the lineup? Way to aim high. And they got him at 14th overall!

What world are you from.

 

[ADHB]

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

False they haven’t been awful for 7 or 8 seasons? Where are all these tank-worthy prospects to carry them to greater heights? Shouldn’t they all be contributing by now?

Eichel and Girgensons? One of these is not like the other.

But maybe they’ll draft the next Emerson Etem this year.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

As long as we're talking about Buffalo for stupid reasons, Eichel looks like Fowler with a fake mustache disguise.

 

[duxfan1101]

As long as we're talking about Buffalo for stupid reasons, Eichel looks like Fowler with a fake mustache disguise.

Holy crap he does kind of have Fowler's face, but if Fowler had a perm

 

[StreetHawk]

False they haven’t been awful for 7 or 8 seasons? Where are all these tank-worthy prospects to carry them to greater heights? Shouldn’t they all be contributing by now?

Eichel and Girgensons? One of these is not like the other.

But maybe they’ll draft the next Emerson Etem this year.

Buffalo has been bad for a while. 2013 got risto at round 8/9 OA. 2014 they were last and got Reinhart 2nd. Went full on tank and finished last but got Eichel. Finished at 8 worst and got Nylander in 2016. Were the 5th worst team in 2017 and got Mittlestadt. Finished last in 2018 and got Dahlin. Finished 5th worst this season. That’s 7 consecutive years in the top 10 of the draft.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

People think Miller was dogging it? Other than his legitimate knee injury that kept him out for a while, when does a backup have the opportunity to call in sick?

 

[Masch78]

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

Buffalo finished 8th, 8th, 7th, 8th, 8th, 7th in their last 6 seasons. They got Eichel (who is likely better than anyone in the draft) 4 years ago and got a D that is by far better than anyone of the current group. They got Ristolainen (once considered as one of the best D in his age group), they got Mittelstadt and they have Sam Reinhart.

All in all, they should be already flourishing and not in some time. With the Oilers you face the same situation, maybe even worse. Heck most of the rebuilding teams struggle all the time. Only Tampa, Chicago. And you can argue would Tampa be so strong without the later homerun picks Kucherov and Point and their lucky FA signings Gourde and Johnson? Sure Stamkos and Hedman are great but Tampa is not where they are because of them alone.

Even Chicago was based on the fundament of Duncan Keith and the D around. While Kane and Towes were great, Chicago got gems in the later rounds.

Interestingly, among the top 10 scorers in the league are 4 first overall picks, one 2nd, one 3rd and the rest are lower picks.

So to sum it up. Tanking over a certain period of time is just half of the story.

 

[eternalbedhead]

False. They have Bonafide centerman in Eichel and Girgensons. They also have a brand new 5 rookies breaking into the league this year getting there feet wet. That’s not a fair assessment. Also two first rounders who may be ready this year as well. You’re really reaching on underestimating Buffalo this off season.

Buffalo is Young and flourishing for next season.

Are they on the way up finally? Probably, yes. It's a notable possibility that they aren't, but it looks like they're finally pulling themselves together.

But let's not forget that they've been languishing for years without results. Much like Edmonton, who could possibly receive their fifth 1st overall pick in the last decade tomorrow night. And look where those 4 lottery picks have gotten them.

Terribly-run organizations are going to be terrible with or without cornerstone players and while I'm mad that we got passed up so badly at the end like we did, advocating for our organization to become similarly terrible (because let's be honest, that's what tanking is) is myopic. Let's put together a team of Jack Hughes, Alexis Lafreniere, and Lucas Raymond/Jan Mysak/whoever the f*** is coming up beyond that, and we'll watch our now-garbage organization flounder anyways.

Seriously, you're pretending like we're old and broken and we need to rebuild a-la NYR. However, that makes absolutely no sense. With the exception of Getzlaf, our core is very young. A young, Vezina-caliber goaltender, a strong, deep defensive core that is also young, and a group of young forwards that lack star power but make up for it in depth. We're not dependent on Getzlaf any more and I think our need for Kesler and Perry will be fully phased out in the next year or two.

We'd be Nashville-caliber with any decent coach, even if Getzlaf is 35-36 at that point.

And Girgensons? What the actual f***?

As long as we're talking about Buffalo for stupid reasons, Eichel looks like Fowler with a fake mustache disguise.

A fake mustache disguise and a tiny bit of stoned surfer dude in his DNA that Fowler does not possess. Cover up the hair and the mustache, though, and the similarity is actually kinda alarming. xP

 

[la patineuse]

If Bob continues to call out our players, we may end up with another RC situation. Wont matter whom our coach is if the players hate our GM now too.

 

[la patineuse]

Yes, but he’s had exceptionally poor judgement on a lot of levels this season. Doesn’t mean he won’t be good next year, but he’s been acting like his emotions have been clouding his judgement since the Sharks series. His statements about not knowing what kind of players he had (both before and after taking over the HC position) also make him seem pretty damned out of touch with his own organization.

 

[la patineuse]

just watched the interview...and IMO he was talking about miller and possibly gibson aswell.

He said Gibson was still below weight because of how the Ducks over-relied on him in the first part of the season, so I am not sure he's including Gibson.

 

[duxfan1101]

Some insightful comments about the defensive system change

 

[405Exit]

Yes, but he’s had exceptionally poor judgement on a lot of levels this season. Doesn’t mean he won’t be good next year, but he’s been acting like his emotions have been clouding his judgement since the Sharks series. His statements about not knowing what kind of players he had (both before and after taking over the HC position) also make him seem pretty damned out of touch with his own organization.

Exactly. HE KNEW WHAT HE HAD BEFORE firing fricken Carlyle. The Samuellis sit back and let him do his thing. He has full control. Any general manager with a common sense would either trade to get better or tank to get better. If this was Toronto? Or any other Canadian organization. He would have been fired along with Carlyle.

Duck fans should be outraged with these recurring issues ever since Burke left. It’s reoccurring every flipping season. He dumps Montour which we would expect tank mode. Then ends up lighting a fuse on the team and they have an 8th overall pick.

Pick a destination where the team needs to go and stick to it please. It’s god damn frustrating just talking about it.

 

[ADHB]

Among other things, like quotes from Fowler, Gibson, etc. some more comments from Bob not in his initial exit interview. There are some gems about what he’s looking for in a new coach... basically everything most of us said before re-hiring (and then keeping) Carlyle.

“But you’ve got to be able to communicate with these young guys. You got to be able to communicate with this group all the time. The old-school type of coach, I don’t think will work with (this group). That would be the first thing I’m going to (look at).

“There’s a group of guys I know communicate. That’s the first step. … Obviously, I’m going to want to see what kind of style they want to play. But the players dictate the style of play. You can’t bring in a coach that’s going to say, ‘We’re going to play this style.’ You got to have a coach that says, ‘OK, this is what we got.’”