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Over the volcano

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If he likes it there, maybe. I personally wouldn't since it basically means you're not going to realistically compete for a cup any time soon, but some people are more concerned with quality of life than reaching the pinnacle of their profession. Will be telling one way or the other based on what he does, no?
Oh I don’t doubt he likes it there - I wonder though if the Canes will pay what annother more desperate club would. His numbers could make for some real silly offers out there and the Canes should know him pretty well by then.
 

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I don’t think Krug’s problem is size. Grzelcyk is just as small but he doesn’t make nearly as many boneheaded plays on defense. He also doesn’t get beat on the rush as often.

As they like to say... if grze was 6'3 hed be a number 1 dman. Make no mistake, size is grze problem. But it was a problem for guys like brian ralfalski as well.

Don sweeney wasnt huge

If small dmen learn to minamalize their disadvantage then their other skills can shine.

Krug does excel on the pp
Grzelyck is very smart with coverage and hockey iq

Both guys would be absolute studs if only they were bigger. No one will criticize either guys attitude if we trade 1 of them or krug might leave as an ufa

Hell we didnt criticize mcquaid or colin miller or riley nash or gregory campbell or danial paille

Some people want to cry conspiracy but the truth is some talented players have bad attitudes. Other franchises might accept it. The bruins dont

And most bruin fans are very proud to cheer for a team led by chara and bergeron and bourque and oreilly and cashman and orr

Wearing the b and playing in boston is a priveledge and if you try to put yourself ahead of the team then priveledge revolked

Hell... trading these superstars took guts. We were mocked by everyone. The experts said we would never recover

Hashtag# 3 cup final appearances in last 3 years
 

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Wheeler is also off so far,Lucic,Eriksson (multiple healthy scratches) and Boychuk is getting 6th D minutes.

Its a little surprising boychuk doesnt get more mention as worst contract in nhl. He is an honest competitor and a winner but hes 35 now... slowing down... injury prone... signed 2 more years at 6 mill

He is pretty much a grit and leadership guy only... but he was never in chara class for that

Barely a step above mcquaid and miller

Props to him for landing that contract somewhere... but so glad it isnt us paying it now
 

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Krugs problem is his size... not his attitude

Lots of bruins move on and we dont say they had a bad attitude. Ray bourque never had 1 bad word because his attitude here was hall of fame. Lucic, boychuk, seidenberg, ferrence, kelly, peverly, thornton

Not a peep because they all bought in

There was a couple high profile superstar talents who were bad leaders here... i heard concerns over their attitude while here. People can spin it like the critism came after but smart fans were debating it years before these kids got shipped out

I like to hope for the best so i often supported all these kids. I said if their attitude changes they could be allstars

I still say that but after awhile you cant expect an attitude change anymore

Doesnt shock me dallas calls out seguin by name
Or malkin runs kessel out of dodge

These guys have talent but arent winners

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Also doesn't Seguin have a cup and Kessel two?
 
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Also doesn't Seguin have a cup and Kessel two?

when did seguin get his cup? was that when he was a pressbox guy for boston?

and kessel enjoys being out of the spotlight with Crosby and makin taking the lion share of the checking. he really excelled at 8 mill per year on a 3rd line

Pittsburgh asked him to please play with Crosby or malkin and it really failed. they were looking to move him for a couple years and finally traded him for a discount

when Toronto traded him there was almost no takers at all

seguins had 2 front office people call him out by name in 12 months... hes led his team to 1 trip past the first round and just 3 playoffs in total in 7 years since being traded. he seems to have rubbed off badly on benn as well who went from arguably the best player in the nhl to a real anchor in record time.
 

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when did seguin get his cup? was that when he was a pressbox guy for boston?

and kessel enjoys being out of the spotlight with Crosby and makin taking the lion share of the checking. he really excelled at 8 mill per year on a 3rd line

Pittsburgh asked him to please play with Crosby or malkin and it really failed. they were looking to move him for a couple years and finally traded him for a discount

when Toronto traded him there was almost no takers at all

seguins had 2 front office people call him out by name in 12 months... hes led his team to 1 trip past the first round and just 3 playoffs in total in 7 years since being traded. he seems to have rubbed off badly on benn as well who went from arguably the best player in the nhl to a real anchor in record time.

Kessel should have won a Conn Smythe and No Seguin game 2 vs Tampa no cup.
 

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Kessel should have won a Conn Smythe and No Seguin game 2 vs Tampa no cup.

I guess my point... and most of us that are not happy with this type of player... is never a question of their talent...

its like peter klima not playing for 19 hours and then getting a chance in the 14th ot period and scoring a goal.

talent will have its highlight moments. talent will impress and leave you thinking theres more there to be had

but losing follows these guys around. you say kessel put together a good playoff and could have won a con smyth... thats because he had 20-30 highlights... sure... ok...

but what did he do in Toronto? what will he do in Arizona? and why was Pittsburgh so happy to let him go? you want to focus on the 20 games where he gave a damn? do you forget when his coach in Toronto says he wont check enough to play center? how he tells the reporter the day Toronto gets eliminated from playoffs that hes going fishing? or how the assistant coach says he wants to run new drills in camp and kessel says no, im not running new drills

this guy is a HORRIBLE LEADER...

if you got a team with 4-5 real leaders you can carry him I guess... but hes damn expensive for being a 3rd liner. if you dont have a deep enough team to hide him, then you will be in trouble

jurys out... will he be better in Arizona?

I think joe thornton has redeamed himself somewhat as he got older. he sucked when we dealt him. but as his career wound down you could tell he wanted to play on a winner.

its always possible for guys to improve with age.

steve yzerman has poems and songs written about how he changed. some guys never seem to change. we can all probably agree on a few dozen superstar players we just wouldnt want on our team. guys can score 100 points and still suck.

its always ok to have a guy like that on your team provided that hes not your leadership. a lot of great teams hid and covered up for a player like this. having some high end talent on a 3rd line is usually a good thing.

but having your best player or second best player be a loser... is never good
 

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I guess my point... and most of us that are not happy with this type of player... is never a question of their talent...

its like peter klima not playing for 19 hours and then getting a chance in the 14th ot period and scoring a goal.

talent will have its highlight moments. talent will impress and leave you thinking theres more there to be had

but losing follows these guys around. you say kessel put together a good playoff and could have won a con smyth... thats because he had 20-30 highlights... sure... ok...

but what did he do in Toronto? what will he do in Arizona? and why was Pittsburgh so happy to let him go? you want to focus on the 20 games where he gave a damn? do you forget when his coach in Toronto says he wont check enough to play center? how he tells the reporter the day Toronto gets eliminated from playoffs that hes going fishing? or how the assistant coach says he wants to run new drills in camp and kessel says no, im not running new drills

this guy is a HORRIBLE LEADER...

if you got a team with 4-5 real leaders you can carry him I guess... but hes damn expensive for being a 3rd liner. if you dont have a deep enough team to hide him, then you will be in trouble

jurys out... will he be better in Arizona?

I think joe thornton has redeamed himself somewhat as he got older. he sucked when we dealt him. but as his career wound down you could tell he wanted to play on a winner.

its always possible for guys to improve with age.

steve yzerman has poems and songs written about how he changed. some guys never seem to change. we can all probably agree on a few dozen superstar players we just wouldnt want on our team. guys can score 100 points and still suck.

its always ok to have a guy like that on your team provided that hes not your leadership. a lot of great teams hid and covered up for a player like this. having some high end talent on a 3rd line is usually a good thing.

but having your best player or second best player be a loser... is never good
Kessel and Seguin played more post season games in their last year in Boston than they did in all their years with the clubs they were traded to.
 

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Wow, did Donato look like hot garbage tonight or what. If that’s how he’s been playing he’s got a LOT of work to do.
Pretty much exactly how he played in his last 20 games as a Bruin. It’s too bad, I thought he would be better than this.
 

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Wow, did Donato look like hot garbage tonight or what. If that’s how he’s been playing he’s got a LOT of work to do.

Bruce: “He just said, ‘Go and coach me,’ and that’s when I think I’m at my best when (player) has the confidence in me and let me coach. It’s been awhile since he has had a lot of confidence in me to play him in all situations.”
 

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Makes a hell of a case for letting prospects develop complete games in The AHL before calling them up. Maybe he has fundamental flaws but I thought missing a year or two in Providence did him no favors.

His Olympics and start to his NHL career really were a detriment when you look back maybe. He was fantastic in both, then maybe he didn't work as hard or thought he was 'in"? I don't know. I still think he was OK for the Bruins and very good for Minny down the stretch but this year looks lost and I only saw him in a few games so far
 

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Fixed it for you...:naughty:

What do you think about a Backes for Turris trade?

Nashville has been trying to trade him but no takers. Has 4 years left after this one, but that contract isn't buyout proof. Even dollars for Nashville, but they get out of the deal 4 years earlier. Been a healthy scratch the last 3 or 4 games.

Could play third line center and allows Coyle to play 2 RW.
 
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What do you think about a Backes for Turris trade?

Nashville has been trying to trade him but no takers. Has 4 years left after this one, but that contract isn't buyout proof. Even dollars for Nashville, but they get out of the deal 4 years earlier. Been a healthy scratch the last 3 or 4 games.

Could play third line center and allows Coyle to play 2 RW.

Wouldn't it make more sense for Boston to just bite the bullet on Backes for the 1.5 years and be done with him instead of taking on a worse contract?

Obviously Turris is a better player than Backes at this point but you're really handcuffing yourself for more years.
 

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Wheeler is also off so far,Lucic,Eriksson (multiple healthy scratches) and Boychuk is getting 6th D minutes.

Wheeler is the only surprise in that group. He was looking pretty damn dominant for a while. Almost certain he’ll bounce back soon.
 
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As they like to say... if grze was 6'3 hed be a number 1 dman. Make no mistake, size is grze problem. But it was a problem for guys like brian ralfalski as well.

Don sweeney wasnt huge

If small dmen learn to minamalize their disadvantage then their other skills can shine.

Krug does excel on the pp
Grzelyck is very smart with coverage and hockey iq

Both guys would be absolute studs if only they were bigger. No one will criticize either guys attitude if we trade 1 of them or krug might leave as an ufa

Hell we didnt criticize mcquaid or colin miller or riley nash or gregory campbell or danial paille

Some people want to cry conspiracy but the truth is some talented players have bad attitudes. Other franchises might accept it. The bruins dont

And most bruin fans are very proud to cheer for a team led by chara and bergeron and bourque and oreilly and cashman and orr

Wearing the b and playing in boston is a priveledge and if you try to put yourself ahead of the team then priveledge revolked

Hell... trading these superstars took guts. We were mocked by everyone. The experts said we would never recover

Hashtag# 3 cup final appearances in last 3 years
We don't play for cup appearances, we play for cup TITLES
 

Lo97

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when did seguin get his cup? was that when he was a pressbox guy for boston?

and kessel enjoys being out of the spotlight with Crosby and makin taking the lion share of the checking. he really excelled at 8 mill per year on a 3rd line

Pittsburgh asked him to please play with Crosby or malkin and it really failed. they were looking to move him for a couple years and finally traded him for a discount

when Toronto traded him there was almost no takers at all

seguins had 2 front office people call him out by name in 12 months... hes led his team to 1 trip past the first round and just 3 playoffs in total in 7 years since being traded. he seems to have rubbed off badly on benn as well who went from arguably the best player in the nhl to a real anchor in record time.
lmao Jamie Benn was never the arguably the best player in the NHL
 
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