Former Bruins EX Bruins Discussion Thread

[BMC]

I can't believe NESN is going to do a profile of Ryan Donato before the Wild-Bruins game. As if we didn't know who he is already

 

[LSCII]

I can't believe NESN is going to do a profile of Ryan Donato before the Wild-Bruins game. As if we didn't know who he is already

Who?

 

[Number8]

Yes, and the sheep here followed suit, even if you don't recall. Same dynamic with Hamilton's exit too.

Dougie forced a trade despite getting a very good offer here in Boston. Only takeaway can be that he forced his way out because he didn't want to be here. Fans accordingly felt snubbed so lash out, not very hard to figure. Pretty much human nature.

Yeah, Dougie is on pace for a 36 point increase on top of his best season ever -- a 72% increase. Maybe he's growing up, maybe he's thriving in a low key US market, or both. None of that changes how things played out in Boston and why "fans" have a legitimate reason not to like him.

I personally could give two s**ts about his performance and won't -- until and unless we play them in the playoffs.

 

[Over the volcano]

Don't float something out there to be a Richard Cranium and then act like it was an innocuous comment when you get called out on it. You know what you did and what you meant, which is why you doubled down with your last comment.

Players change teams all the time. It's not like teams were trading him for crap just to dump him. He got moved in two big deals, with high value assets going back to the trading team. Boston got a first and 2 seconds, and Calgary got Hanafin and Lindholm in return for Dougie, Ferland, and Adam Fox, ffs.

The point of my post is that when guys are here so many sheep will talk them up but as soon as they're traded, those same people go out of their way to say player X was a POS, that they sucked, and that the Bruins are better without them (As example: See: Hamilton, Dougie, and Kessel, Phil, and Seguin, Tyler, and See Thornton, Joe just to name a few). I mean ****, there are people here who still **** talk Ray Bourque for leaving and winning a cup with Colorado at the end of his career.

Sure, so do you think the Canes will pony up and resign him or will he cash in on some more desperate club?

 

[LSCII]

Sure, so do you think the Canes will pony up and resign him or will he cash in on some more desperate club?

If he likes it there, maybe. I personally wouldn't since it basically means you're not going to realistically compete for a cup any time soon, but some people are more concerned with quality of life than reaching the pinnacle of their profession. Will be telling one way or the other based on what he does, no?

 

[LSCII]

Dougie forced a trade despite getting a very good offer here in Boston. Only takeaway can be that he forced his way out because he didn't want to be here. Fans accordingly felt snubbed so lash out, not very hard to figure. Pretty much human nature.

Yeah, Dougie is on pace for a 36 point increase on top of his best season ever -- a 72% increase. Maybe he's growing up, maybe he's thriving in a low key US market, or both. None of that changes how things played out in Boston and why "fans" have a legitimate reason not to like him.

I personally could give two s**ts about his performance and won't -- until and unless we play them in the playoffs.

I tend to give players a pass over not wanting to be here while Claude was the coach. The style of play he insisted on was so rigid and boring that anyone with even a modicum of offensive creativity had to feel suffocated most of the time. When you factor in the amount of times Hamilton was sat over a mistake, I don't blame him at all for shooting his way out of town.

 

[BMC]

Who?

Well played, well played indeed

 

[ON3M4N]

All I know is Dougie Hamilton and Hamilton the Pig had the same amount of points during the BOS/CAR series last year. Hamilton the pig at least had an excuse for his lack of production

 

[Number8]

I tend to give players a pass over not wanting to be here while Claude was the coach. The style of play he insisted on was so rigid and boring that anyone with even a modicum of offensive creativity had to feel suffocated most of the time. When you factor in the amount of times Hamilton was sat over a mistake, I don't blame him at all for shooting his way out of town.

I get you on that -- most definitely. Claude has been a very successful coach, but flexible is not a word that immediately comes to mind. I can see how certain defenders would bristle under that sort of system and coach.

I was just pointing out that fans are not always logical or balanced. It's the beauty of being a fan -- feeling a disproportionate amount of joy or heartache often disproportionate to what might truly be important in life. And most fans are indeed as you point out fans of the laundry first, players second. There's a certain kind of magic when the player and the laundry catch the love of a town (Bergeron, Bourque, Orr, etc, etc) and a certain kind of bitterness when it doesn't (in this case Dougie H).

Senior year in high school Mary breaks up with Paul to go out with the star QB Davey -- the one with the good looks, big muscles and flowing locks of golden hair. Paul thought Mary loved him and is now very sad. When Davey turns out to be gay, joins the ballet, and breaks Mary's heart, Paul is going to have a huge s**t eating grin on his face for about a month!!! Maybe not so accepting or honorable, just the way of life.

 

[LSCII]

All I know is Dougie Hamilton and Hamilton the Pig had the same amount of points during the BOS/CAR series last year. Hamilton the pig at least had an excuse for his lack of production

And yet you claimed you were asking a question with no agenda? Was clear as day what you were getting at.

 

[C77]

I am interested to learn how poor of a player Krug was in Boston after he gets dealt in two weeks.

 

[LSCII]

I am interested to learn how poor of a player Krug was in Boston after he gets dealt in two weeks.

That's pretty much what you'll see if and when that happens...

 

[finchster]

Many top defencemen didn't hit their full stride until their late 20's. Chara, Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Keith, Hedman, and Burns didn't have a Norris finalist until they were older than 26, Hamilton's current age. Not saying Hamilton is on their level, but defencemen more often peak later than fowards.

Yes Hamilton made stupid decisions with the puck sometimes, but the truth is that it is easier to learn the defensive side of the game than it is to learn offensive skills and talent. Some defencemen need game experience to understand the play, Hamilton seems to be that kind of guy.

I am interested to learn how poor of a player Krug was in Boston after he gets dealt in two weeks.

Krug's defence needs work, he can't play defence well enough for the Bruins.

 

[DominicT]

I tend to give players a pass over not wanting to be here while Claude was the coach. The style of play he insisted on was so rigid and boring that anyone with even a modicum of offensive creativity had to feel suffocated most of the time. When you factor in the amount of times Hamilton was sat over a mistake, I don't blame him at all for shooting his way out of town.

Dougie is good and Donato is bad. I think that’s fair.

I was thinking the other day of the Seguin trade and how pissed I was. I thought we wouldn’t get a young all-star talent like that for years. Then they drafted Pastrnak and I was like ok, people seem to like him so maybe he’ll be pretty good. I never thought he’d be better than Seguin.

Hand grenades?

 

[DominicT]

Sheep may be a little harsh, but what do you call fans that root for a guy one day and then bash them after the team trades them? Seems to me those "fans" are doing nothing but toeing the line for the front office and are rooting for laundry. I've been watching sports for a long time and I've seen great players come and go. I've never felt the the need to belittle a guy just because they moved on to a different team. If they were good, they were good. If they were bad, they were bad. Simple as that. I don't need Cam Neely to spin things for me, as I'm capable of forming my own opinions...

While not denying the talent, there is at least one "fan" (should I use quotations because you did?) that followed the company line after he was traded but..... he was saying it even before the Bruins draft him!

 

[Dueling Banjos]

I love Russia stories, thanks for sharing.

Lots of good ones on the Spittin Chiclets podcast. I think they are taking it too far, actually. Russia doesnt mess around.

Yeah Russian stories on Chiclets pod are the best. Stapleton's recently were pretty hardcore. Also Brandon Yip's stories about Kunlun Red Star billionaire owner were very interesting.

 

[LSCII]

While not denying the talent, there is at least one "fan" (should I use quotations because you did?) that followed the company line after he was traded but..... he was saying it even before the Bruins draft him!

You should absolutely use the "" whenever you have the "chance" Dom...

 

[Jaguar God]

I am interested to learn how poor of a player Krug was in Boston after he gets dealt in two weeks.

Considering what Krug has done since 2013, I don't think you'll have anyone calling him a "poor" player. This mentality that some posters here have to consistently deride others is ridiculous.

Also, what knowledge do you have that Krug is going to be traded in two weeks?

 

[GlenFeatherstone]

Good to see Ryan Lindgren having some success with the Rangers. A goal and 4 assists in 10 games with a +4 rating. Playing about 15:30 a night. Should end up a nice 3rd pairing D.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

It's funny because with all the love McAvoy gets you look at Hamilton and he blows him away advanced stats and offensive production. I can't stand him but he's a lot better than people here give him credit for.

That trade was funny though, people pining for him to get 6 mil per from us long term, then days later saying how bad of a player he is.

Since hamiltons critism was never his talent, but rather his commitment and his hungar to pay the price for success... forgive some of us if we keep our opinion despite a 20 game hot streak

Hell i think even riley nash had a 20 game hot streak

But i always said hamilton could be a modern day larry Robinson if he developed a better attitude. I wish him no ill will

He is very smart and knew us smart fans would eat his lazy play and boo him non stop... he didnt think he could impress us so he left to be happy

Joe thornton left to be happy
Phil kessel left to be happy
Tyler seguin wouldnt put the game above social

These guys refused to buy in... but no one ever doubted their talent

If they find happiness out of Boston then good for them. They never would have succeeded with their attitudes if they stayed

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

I am interested to learn how poor of a player Krug was in Boston after he gets dealt in two weeks.

Krugs problem is his size... not his attitude

Lots of bruins move on and we dont say they had a bad attitude. Ray bourque never had 1 bad word because his attitude here was hall of fame. Lucic, boychuk, seidenberg, ferrence, kelly, peverly, thornton

Not a peep because they all bought in

There was a couple high profile superstar talents who were bad leaders here... i heard concerns over their attitude while here. People can spin it like the critism came after but smart fans were debating it years before these kids got shipped out

I like to hope for the best so i often supported all these kids. I said if their attitude changes they could be allstars

I still say that but after awhile you cant expect an attitude change anymore

Doesnt shock me dallas calls out seguin by name
Or malkin runs kessel out of dodge

These guys have talent but arent winners

 

[BruinsBtn]

Donato is really having a miserable year. 3 points in 20 games.

 

[BNHL]

Donato is really having a miserable year. 3 points in 20 games.

Wheeler is also off so far,Lucic,Eriksson (multiple healthy scratches) and Boychuk is getting 6th D minutes.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Krugs problem is his size... not his attitude

Lots of bruins move on and we dont say they had a bad attitude. Ray bourque never had 1 bad word because his attitude here was hall of fame. Lucic, boychuk, seidenberg, ferrence, kelly, peverly, thornton

Not a peep because they all bought in

There was a couple high profile superstar talents who were bad leaders here... i heard concerns over their attitude while here. People can spin it like the critism came after but smart fans were debating it years before these kids got shipped out

I like to hope for the best so i often supported all these kids. I said if their attitude changes they could be allstars

I still say that but after awhile you cant expect an attitude change anymore

Doesnt shock me dallas calls out seguin by name
Or malkin runs kessel out of dodge

These guys have talent but arent winners

I don’t think Krug’s problem is size. Grzelcyk is just as small but he doesn’t make nearly as many boneheaded plays on defense. He also doesn’t get beat on the rush as often.

 

[Ladyfan]

Donato is really having a miserable year. 3 points in 20 games.

I wish Ryan the best. I hope he starts playing well. I have nothing at all against the kid.