At the salary he is being paid, Dadonov should be generating some offence 5 on 5 too; however on this team we lack two top line centers so Dadonov is not likely to do well at 5 on 5 until we do get a top line Center to play with him. L. Brown might be the guy but L. Brown has defensive short-comings due to his lack of quickness and speed.
Player Discussion Evgenii Dadonov (RW)
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At the salary he is being paid, Dadonov should be generating some offence 5 on 5 too; however on this team we lack two top line centers so Dadonov is not likely to do well at 5 on 5 until we do get a top line Center to play with him. L. Brown might be the guy but L. Brown has defensive short-comings due to his lack of quickness and speed.
We don’t need any more third and fourth line players.
Sometimes I think Dorion wants to have 2 3rd lines and 2 4th lines.
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Free Dadonov from Stepan ASAP
Line Combinations - Frozen Tools
Maybe then he'll start playing better and produce.
The frozen tool has improved, you can even see SF% and CF% directly with line combinations
Line Combinations - Frozen Tools
Maybe then he'll start playing better and produce.
The frozen tool has improved, you can even see SF% and CF% directly with line combinations
I agree. Again, I feel this just goes to coaching. I find DJ very simple as I’ve said. Just because stepan is different from dadonov stutzle and galchenyuk doesn’t mean he helps them or compliments them
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What I find an OBVIOUS problem on the team is outside of a few players, passing ability is not good enough to consistently have a good transition/cycle game.
Logan Brown in the line-up would be so detrimental!
Personally if I am Dorion/DJ, I would not care about winning NOW.
I'd have no clear 1st line/2nd line/etc. That's where I'd go with merit. Those playing the best get more TOI.
Stutzle-Brown-Dadonov
Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Paul-Tierney-Brown
Galchenyuk-Stepan-White
This lineup would need a Formenton too. I'd have Formenton-Paul-Brown once Stepan and/or Tierney are traded.
But maybe it's Melnyk puting pressure on them to start winning this year.
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I like pairing L. Brown with Dadonov, but then I think we need a banger on the left side to create room for them. Maybe Paul?
Tkachuk - White - Batherson
Paul - L. Brown - Dadonov
Stutzle - Norris - C. Brown
Galchenyuk - Tierney - Watson
Some balance of grinding, passing and finish on each line.
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Daddy will be fine. I think he needs to build some chemistry on his line. He has the talent to score in bunches.
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I think he misses playing with your big dogs. Been a learning curve for sure. You see flashes of why they brought him in.
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He needs some better linemates and to develop chemistry. He has 1 goal and 1 assist in 6 games.
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He's getting frustrated. On a few plays you can just see him hang on to the puck and try to rip it himself. Don't blame him. His skill is evident. He'll start to truck along as he gains chemistry with someone. I wanna see Tkachuk and Norris with him.
Yeah think he would be better, if we had something that actually belongs in the top 6 to play with him...Iam still pushing for Stu at center
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I could post this in several threads...
Any player evaluation this year has to be taken with a big grain of salt, or least for now until coaching (and personnel decisions) is fixed. Dorion has made some counter-productive moves to the team. The intention was there but just a bad miscalculation on the quantity of "veterans" needed, particularly when none of them are above average for the role they have to play in Ottawa. Several are actually below average for those roles. You can't expect to have several players to prove they can do well outside of their usual "comfort zone"
Losing Balcers and almost losing Chlapik/Jaros (even if none of them are "blue chippers") for guys like Ansimov, Stepan, Paquette (who doesn't want to be here), Coburn, Reilly. Brown was very short sighted. DJ Dorion seems so stubborn on targeting specific guys, go out of his way to pay assets to get them (and/or diminish/waste other assets in the process/as a result) but in the end, they're nothing special and makes you wonder why we simply didn't go with cheaper solutions instead (like the ton of prospects we had)
Coaching needs to be fixed and roster decisions have to be different. Puck movement, mobility, skating, skill, IQ, etc over "toughness", "intensity" and CCF/60
Tkachuk-Brown-Dadonov
Stutzle-Norris-Batherson
Paul-White-Brown
Formenton-Tierney-Watson
Galchenyuk/Chlapik
Chabot-Zaitsev
Brannstrom-Zub
Wolanin-Gudbranson
Brown
- Tkachuk draws massive attention, creates havoc in front of the net, allowing Brown Daddy to make skilled plays as they have more space and time.
- The Deluxe kid line. Great speed, skill, IQ, shot, playmaking... Everything is there, just need to materialize it. You're saying inexperience? lol how has experience worked for us so far?
- I love this line. They can give headaches to any line by pushing the play forward.
- Competent 4th line, Forms gets experience and will move up eventually. He could be a serious threat on a 4th line and the way he brings pucks to the net can allow Watson/Tierney to score goals, pretty much like Swarz in Belleville last year.
- Chabot-Zaitsev, no choice as we have no one else capable of playing these minutes
- Brannstrom, his skating/speed/hockey smarts alone makes him much better and safer than Mike Reilly. As soon as he is healthy enough, he should be in the lineup over him, this is a NO BRAINER. Zub is another smart D-man who can move the puck and be steady. He has a lot of pro experience (KHL). A few games and that pairing who be a MASSIVE upgrade on what we have seen so far.
- Gudbranson in that spot he can be useful. Provides size, grit, experience to Wolanin, allowing him to find his game and shake off the massive rust.
I really doubt we'll see that kind of lineup but I'm basing it on ability and potential growth. I don't care about immediate results but I'm looking to go somewhere. If anyone wants to argue that's what we are doing right now, lol go for it.
Trade Stepan, Anisimov, Paquette, Coburn, Reilly if possible. If not, put them on taxi.
Any player evaluation this year has to be taken with a big grain of salt, or least for now until coaching (and personnel decisions) is fixed. Dorion has made some counter-productive moves to the team. The intention was there but just a bad miscalculation on the quantity of "veterans" needed, particularly when none of them are above average for the role they have to play in Ottawa. Several are actually below average for those roles. You can't expect to have several players to prove they can do well outside of their usual "comfort zone"
Losing Balcers and almost losing Chlapik/Jaros (even if none of them are "blue chippers") for guys like Ansimov, Stepan, Paquette (who doesn't want to be here), Coburn, Reilly. Brown was very short sighted. DJ Dorion seems so stubborn on targeting specific guys, go out of his way to pay assets to get them (and/or diminish/waste other assets in the process/as a result) but in the end, they're nothing special and makes you wonder why we simply didn't go with cheaper solutions instead (like the ton of prospects we had)
Coaching needs to be fixed and roster decisions have to be different. Puck movement, mobility, skating, skill, IQ, etc over "toughness", "intensity" and CCF/60
Tkachuk-Brown-Dadonov
Stutzle-Norris-Batherson
Paul-White-Brown
Formenton-Tierney-Watson
Galchenyuk/Chlapik
Chabot-Zaitsev
Brannstrom-Zub
Wolanin-Gudbranson
Brown
- Tkachuk draws massive attention, creates havoc in front of the net, allowing Brown Daddy to make skilled plays as they have more space and time.
- The Deluxe kid line. Great speed, skill, IQ, shot, playmaking... Everything is there, just need to materialize it. You're saying inexperience? lol how has experience worked for us so far?
- I love this line. They can give headaches to any line by pushing the play forward.
- Competent 4th line, Forms gets experience and will move up eventually. He could be a serious threat on a 4th line and the way he brings pucks to the net can allow Watson/Tierney to score goals, pretty much like Swarz in Belleville last year.
- Chabot-Zaitsev, no choice as we have no one else capable of playing these minutes
- Brannstrom, his skating/speed/hockey smarts alone makes him much better and safer than Mike Reilly. As soon as he is healthy enough, he should be in the lineup over him, this is a NO BRAINER. Zub is another smart D-man who can move the puck and be steady. He has a lot of pro experience (KHL). A few games and that pairing who be a MASSIVE upgrade on what we have seen so far.
- Gudbranson in that spot he can be useful. Provides size, grit, experience to Wolanin, allowing him to find his game and shake off the massive rust.
I really doubt we'll see that kind of lineup but I'm basing it on ability and potential growth. I don't care about immediate results but I'm looking to go somewhere. If anyone wants to argue that's what we are doing right now, lol go for it.
Trade Stepan, Anisimov, Paquette, Coburn, Reilly if possible. If not, put them on taxi.
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Agreed. Dadanov hasn't exactly been productive, but you can say the same for most of our offense.
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I agree. It also allows Stutzle to play with Batherson.
