PuckSeparator
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Who is the better player? We can compare their careers until age 32-33 and also hypothesize as to Ovechkin's future trajectory as he gets up there in his 30ies.
Jagr has five scoring titles and two runner ups which were arguably just as impressive as anything Ovechkin has done.Ovechkin has 3 Harts and 2 runner ups, Jagr has 1 and 3 runner ups. I’d take this year and 07-08 from Ovechkin over any Jagr seasons. And in a vacuum I take the guy who leads the league in goals over the guy who leads the league in assists. These are my strongest arguments for Ovechkin.
This is Yzerman/Sakic, Lidstrom/Bourque close.
OV is currently having the best playoff run between the two but Jagr had a fair lead in playoff legacy prior to this year. Regular seasons are very close too.
Jagr was able to carry a line better than OV with his all around offensive game.
Gretzky has 11 Art Rosses and 5 Richards so I think 7 Richards are more impressive than 7 top 2 point finishes. Sure Jagr played forever but he only averaged a point a game twice after 30.Jagr has five scoring titles and two runner ups which were arguably just as impressive as anything Ovechkin has done.
Jagr was more dominant and for longer.
This is Yzerman/Sakic, Lidstrom/Bourque close.
OV is currently having the best playoff run between the two but Jagr had a fair lead in playoff legacy prior to this year. Regular seasons are very close too.
Jagr was able to carry a line better than OV with his all around offensive game.
Ovechkin has 3 Harts and 2 runner ups, Jagr has 1 and 3 runner ups. I’d take this year and 07-08 from Ovechkin over any Jagr seasons. And in a vacuum I take the guy who leads the league in goals over the guy who leads the league in assists. These are my strongest arguments for Ovechkin.
Ovechkin carried freaking AHL Washington line, or actually team all by himself pretty much for 2.5 seasons up until 2008-2009. He was the only legitimate player in Washington from 2005-2008 (other was Semin, played different line). In his rookie season he outscored the next guy ALMOST by 50 points, 49 to be exact. All his partners had career years for those 2 seasons. And how this is not the identification of not carrying his own line?! Are you kidding me?!
I’m counting the postseason.Jagr won an Art Ross by 20 points while tying for 2nd in goals. How is Ovechkin finishing 11th in points (21 behind the Art Ross winner) this year better? Value goals over assists, fine. But Jagr was also an elite goalscorer (4 2nd place finishes and 3 other top 6 finishes)
Gretzky has 11 Art Rosses and 5 Richards so I think 7 Richards are more impressive than 7 top 2 point finishes. Sure Jagr played forever but he only averaged a point a game twice after 30.
I’m counting the postseason.
Jagr had 4 season's over PPG after 30 and 1 where he was 3 points short
Ovechkin carried freaking AHL Washington line, or actually team all by himself pretty much for 2.5 seasons up until 2008-2009. He was the only legitimate player in Washington from 2005-2008 (other was Semin, played different line). In his rookie season he outscored the next guy ALMOST by 50 points, 49 to be exact. All his partners had career years for those 2 seasons. And how this is not the identification of not carrying his own line?! Are you kidding me?!
Gretzky has 11 Art Rosses and 5 Richards so I think 7 Richards are more impressive than 7 top 2 point finishes. Sure Jagr played forever but he only averaged a point a game twice after 30.