ESPN Article: Top 10 Centers in the NHL, as Ranked by Players and Team Officials

CHRoNiCWiLL

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Because goals are the only thing that matters? Man that Marner guy must be a terrible player.
I didnt know game scores were counted by how many assists each team gets.
And nobody claimed Mackinnon was terrible. Matthews has every right to be placed ahead of him
 

Muffin

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I didnt know game scores were counted by how many assists each team gets.
And nobody claimed Mackinnon was terrible. Matthews has every right to be placed ahead of him

You realize if MacKinnon has 3 assists it literally means his team has at least 3 goals right?
Literally no one outside of Toronto thinks that Matthews is ahead of MacKinnon:laugh:
 

A1LeafNation

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You clearly don't watch Colorado games of you think MacKinnon doesn't play a two way game. You honestly think a guy that looks up to Crosby and trains with him every year is only an offensive player?
No just saying Matthews is better at it, possibly.
 

Rob Brown

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You realize if MacKinnon has 3 assists it literally means his team has at least 3 goals right?
Literally no one outside of Toronto thinks that Matthews is ahead of MacKinnon:laugh:
Pretty sure that this wasn't a city of Toronto survey.
 
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AvroArrow

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Eichel in the top 10 is a joke. Barkov isn't top 5 ???

McDavid, Drai/Matthews/Barkov/Mackinnon is the top 5. Scheifele, Crosby, Point, Bergeron, Barzal, Kopitar, Backstrom, Point, Tavares, Malkin, Stamkos THEN Eichel.

No god damn way he should be ranked higher than any of those guys right now, hell I think Aho is a better player right now as well. Terrible list.
 

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Hyman is not better than Scheifele.

I could be wrong, because I don't watch every Leafs game, but from what I've seen, no way in the world should Tavares be on that list.

And whatever position Matthews is in on that list, he'd move up at least one position of he'd just shave that godawful pornstache. I don't know if he's auditioning to be the pizza delivery guy in a porno, or whether he puts on a checked jacket and sells used cars in the off-season, but either way, it's an embarrassment.

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Empoleon8771

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Eichel in the top 10 is a joke. Barkov isn't top 5 ???

McDavid, Drai/Matthews/Barkov/Mackinnon is the top 5. Scheifele, Crosby, Point, Bergeron, Barzal, Kopitar, Backstrom, Point, Tavares, Malkin, Stamkos THEN Eichel.

No god damn way he should be ranked higher than any of those guys right now, hell I think Aho is a better player right now as well. Terrible list.

Honestly, what case does Barkov have for being in the top-5?

I'm starting to think Barkov is just becoming super overrated at this point. I genuinely don't see what he offers that should warrant him being in the top-5 on the same level as Matthews, Draisaitl and MacKinnon. Frankly I think it's pretty questionable to rank Barkov over Bergeron, seeing how Bergeron is just as productive and actually has defensive awards that Barkov doesn't have.

I'd have my top-5 be McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Crosby and Matthews in that order. I don't see what Barkov offers to break into that top-5 group.
 
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Muffin

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You sure?
I mean there are clearly some idiots in that poll. Imagine leaving MacKinnon off a top 10 players list let alone a top 10 centre :laugh:

one NHL player personnel official and a veteran defenseman left MacKinnon completely off of their top 10s.
 

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Honestly, what case does Barkov have for being in the top-5?

I'm starting to think Barkov is just becoming super overrated at this point. I genuinely don't see what he offers that should warrant him being in the top-5 on the same level as Matthews, Draisaitl and MacKinnon. Frankly I think it's pretty questionable to rank Barkov over Bergeron, seeing how Bergeron is just as productive and actually has defensive awards that Barkov doesn't have.

I'd have my top-5 be McDavid, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Crosby and Matthews in that order. I don't see what Barkov offers to break into that top-5 group.
What argument has Matthews over Barkov and Draisaitl?
 

Rob Brown

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Lol it's because Leafs fans actually believe that. Not saying they're all stupid but since there are more Leafs fans out there than anyone else they also have the highest amount of idiots out there.
By that logic the Leafs fanbase would also have the most intelligent fans based on the sheer size of the fanbase.

Anyway, it's not ridiculous to argue that Matthews and MacKinnon are close. Not sure why it's such a big issue. People are allowed to have different opinions. It's not like they're so far off that it's as egregious as you're making it out to be.

Considering that Marner and Hyman aren't centers, and Tavares doesn't belong in the top fifty....
The Marner and Hyman part was clearly a joke, so that's on you. But Tavares not being in the top 50 is a laughably bad opinion.
 

Empoleon8771

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What argument has Matthews over Barkov and Draisaitl?

Matthews doesn't have an argument over Draisaitl, but he absolutely has an argument over Barkov. Matthews actually has multiple PPG seasons, has multiple seasons of being on pace for 40+ goals and has developed into a good 2-way player.

But that's not the question, what argument does Barkov have for being in the top-5?
 

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Matthews doesn't have an argument over Draisaitl, but he absolutely has an argument over Barkov. Matthews actually has multiple PPG seasons, has multiple seasons of being on pace for 40+ goals and has developed into a good 2-way player.

But that's not the question, what argument does Barkov have for being in the top-5?
I don't know, I have only McDavid, Draisaitl, MacKinnon and Crosby possibly ahead of him.
 

GOALOFSSON

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Eichel in the top 10 is a joke. Barkov isn't top 5 ???

McDavid, Drai/Matthews/Barkov/Mackinnon is the top 5. Scheifele, Crosby, Point, Bergeron, Barzal, Kopitar, Backstrom, Point, Tavares, Malkin, Stamkos THEN Eichel.

No god damn way he should be ranked higher than any of those guys right now, hell I think Aho is a better player right now as well. Terrible list.

I don't know how someone can call a list terrible and then post this.
 
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