Jason MacIsaac
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People saying Karlsson doesn't need size are a tad bit optimistic there. He gets manhandled along the boards and really needs to be protected with a big strong defensmen in order to survive.
Erik Karlsson vs. David Rundblad
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Karlsson was awful for the first month and a bit of his rookie season.
He showed flashes today but still needs time to adapt.
He showed flashes today but still needs time to adapt.
Karlsson's always paired with Kuba who's softer than Lindsay Lohan's ****.
Jason MacIsaac
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Which explains why he was overwhelmed by most of New Jersey's forwards the game I seen in Ottawa.
He was practically untouched all season. Being the size that he is it makes easy to dodge checks and with his speed and lateral agility he's hard to get a good piece of. Plus he's incredibly smart and knows where he is in relation to opposing forwards. Point being - he doesn't need size because he never gets hit.
You base such a conclusion off of a couple games in an 82 game season?
You may be a tad uninformed on the subject my friend.
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He was practically untouched all season. Being the size that he is it makes easy to dodge checks and with his speed and lateral agility he's hard to get a good piece of. Plus he's incredibly smart and knows where he is in relation to opposing forwards. Point being - he doesn't need size because he never gets hit.
The size issue is more defensively. Positionally, he'll be great - but he'll never be able to clear the crease or dominate the boards.
Karlsson's the real deal. I think he has a legit chance of breaking 50 points and becoming an above average guy in his o,wn zone. He played great out there today, had some great chances and knows his game well and doesn't try to go beyond that.
and Yeah this Karlsson vs. Subban vs. Schenn thing pops up a lot even though the comparison of Karlsson to Schenn is wrong. I'd take Karlsson over the other two even though Schenn is my favorite player.
and Yeah this Karlsson vs. Subban vs. Schenn thing pops up a lot even though the comparison of Karlsson to Schenn is wrong. I'd take Karlsson over the other two even though Schenn is my favorite player.
I'd disagree with this strongly. I think people have the expectation that he should work towards a more North American style game which plays a physical game over puck control. If that's the case, they completely lose out on the fact that he's incredible with his poke check, he's improved his body positioning immensely from when he broke into the league, and he's drastically cut down on silly mistakes. At the end of the day, it adds up to him being a pretty damned effective player in any situation.
He's going to prove people wrong who think this way. He's not going to be a beastly physical player, but I don't think that changes the fact that he's going to be incredible in his own way.
Jason MacIsaac
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OK, Karlsson can't be cycled against. Good for you and Ottawa.
He was practically untouched all season. Being the size that he is it makes easy to dodge checks and with his speed and lateral agility he's hard to get a good piece of. Plus he's incredibly smart and knows where he is in relation to opposing forwards. Point being - he doesn't need size because he never gets hit.
You base such a conclusion off of a couple games in an 82 game season?
You may be a tad uninformed on the subject my friend.
No, I payed 80 dollars to get loaded and pass out during the first intermission. If Ottawa fans think Karlsson isn't weak against the cycle then they are less informed then I once thought.
WTF did you even watch the game.
That was what I was talking about the whole time. It isn't hard to cycle against him. Ottawa is one of the few teams where Tedenby has room to move in the corners.
Jason MacIsaac
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In terms of the question at hand, I probably take Karlsson until I see Rundblad play in the NHL. I have a feeling he will need to be protected away from 1st and 2nd line oppositions.
EK is a hell of a lot better than Rundblad right now. I'm not even sure it's debateble at this point. That's not to say Rundblad can't overtake EK in the future, it just isn't the case right now.
Rundblad didn't look too good in the game versus toronto. looked weak physically and in his own end and made a few glaring errors
Haha this.
Cowen has a way of elevating his play. Previous to this best I had ever seen him play, skill wise and performance wise was the AHL playoffs last season. His skating tonight was about as good as I've ever seen it...looked like a different player.
People are kidding themselves if they expect Rundblad to just walk in comfortable. He's on much smaller ice in an early going pre-season game with very little chemistry and with a team that was outmatched by more power on the oppositions side.
Regardless of what happened tonight it's Karlsson clearly.
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It took Karlsson a while to get comfortable too, Rundblad will be fine.
That said, Karlsson showed some elite level skill tonight. Damn.
That said, Karlsson showed some elite level skill tonight. Damn.
ShotDownCrosby
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I'd take Karlsson right now, only because I haven't seen enough of Rundblad. Rundblad could easily surpass Karlsson --- hopefully both will stay with the Sens and work hard to continually try to beat out the other for the best on the team.
Agreed on both counts. Even Rundblad seemed to be getting over the jitters as the game wore on.
Karlsson was easily the most skilled defenseman on the ice, heck you could make an argument for most skilled player.
I can't think of anyone on the ice that would be more skilled....he's probably got the most raw skill among Dmen in the NHL. I really don't think it's wrong to say that...
Here's what a Boston fan comes over to say.
I post this because I said earlier tonight that it's like tonight, of all nights, people that aren't Sens fans started realizing how good he could be. He didn't do anything tonight we haven't seen before.
I post this because I said earlier tonight that it's like tonight, of all nights, people that aren't Sens fans started realizing how good he could be. He didn't do anything tonight we haven't seen before.
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Yes I would.
His defensive skills leave something to desire.
And playing defence is a skill.
He's not the catastrophe that others are making him out to be, but he's not rock-solid in his own end either, yet. I'd say he's about average defensively.
His quickness and takeaways are above average, but his ability to pin opponents and not cough up the puck under pressure are slightly below average.
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