OrrNumber4
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Cap constraints are not the only restrains. With a parsimonious owner, Ottawa was fiscally constrained in terms of real dollars.
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Erik Karlsson (Part 6)
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Cap constraints are not the only restrains. With a parsimonious owner, Ottawa was fiscally constrained in terms of real dollars.
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Actually, Karlsson may not have looked good, but Vlasic was worse statistically.
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Sens fan coming in peace . I can’t fault your criticisms and won’t interject much here .
But for context , the actual scenario was Karlsson was not going to sign with Melnyk as the owner.
There was a bunch of smoke that summer about Alfredsson being in town and a new ownership group trying to buy the Sens . The reason the contract didn’t get done AND there was no trade demand was because Karlsson stalled for as long as possible waiting for that ownership change that never came .
Reggae Shark
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Thanks for coming in peace! I recently wandered in the Sens board after the Balcers pickup. I was astonished at how many of Sens fans seem to have poor attitudes toward SJS. Doesn't make sense considering you've had your share of embarrassment in recent years.
Karlsson definitely doesnt look the same as he did in ottawa. His stamina was the best in the show for a while. Dont know if its conditioning or injuries.
As for being overrated in ottawa lmao.
Also doesnt look like hes having any fun. Hope he turns in around though.
As for being overrated in ottawa lmao.
Also doesnt look like hes having any fun. Hope he turns in around though.
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TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
It's kind of an inevitable conclusion. His presence was always heavily correlated with Ottawa allowing shots from close to the net (and goals) and not as correlated with Ottawa taking shots from close (and scoring) to the net as one may think. He had a negative goals for percentage relative to his teammates in like half of his seasons despite being on a weak team and receiving fairly favorable usage. Obviously he had a ton of talent and it translated to individual scoring but it didn't really translate to on-ice results or out-scoring the opposition as a whole.
What are you talking about?
He gave sens a chance to win every single night. Should have a third norris.
TomasHertlsRooster
Don’t say eye test when you mean points
Yet the Sens always had similar goal shares with him on the bench.
seroes
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Since someone gave him a new liver i would say someone overrates him as a person.
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He was sucking wind today.... he is so out of shape.
for as much as he is paid, I wonder if/when someone in the org talks with him.
not like there is anything they can do at this point - he has his $$$
for as much as he is paid, I wonder if/when someone in the org talks with him.
not like there is anything they can do at this point - he has his $$$
Send him back to Ottawa. Who cares about the optics. We’ll be free of the albatross, Ottawa will have their favorite guy back. Win win
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Karlsson for Zaitsev and our 2nd back. I can’t believe we still owe a 2nd rounder for that POS.
Karl Prime
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His skating will never be the same and now he has to adjust to playing a different game than he did even in 208/19. He can't (or thinks he can't) join the rush as much because he can't get back as quick, and he can't take risks defensively because the foot speed isn't there like it used to (granted he's never been a great defensive skater but was a hell of a lot better than this). It sucks because even tonight, you see a little bit of the old guy with a few rushes up the ice but doubt that he's able to do that consistently anymore. Soon the offense will get going but defensively his best state is definitely on the PK now where mobility is less of an issue where he can focus on blocking shots and winning loose puck battles.
As for whether or not elite Karlsson led teams to success .... in 11-12 they don't make the playoffs without him exploding onto the scene. In 12-13 they only made it because of absurd goaltending after his injury. In 14-15 they don't make that miraculous run without his outstanding play - Hammond was great but Karlsson was the engine of the last 30 games that season. In 15-16 they aren't drafting 11th but 2nd-5th if he wasn't playing at the highest level almost every night. 16-17, well, we know what happened those playoffs, and the season was just as good. 18-19 when the Sharks got rolling in January there were many contributing factors but Erik was most certainly at the forefront of that.
Maybe, just maybe we'll see him play like he did in 18-19, but I doubt he can. He's a competitive guy though, and you can bet he's not happy with his level and wants that to change. Injuries suck and his injuries have come to his greatest asset, and there wasn't even anything he could do about it (Cooke, blocked shot). You have to wonder if he made a deal with the devil as a child to be blessed with the gifts to become an NHL superstar for the cost of a shooting star that burns out too fast.
As for whether or not elite Karlsson led teams to success .... in 11-12 they don't make the playoffs without him exploding onto the scene. In 12-13 they only made it because of absurd goaltending after his injury. In 14-15 they don't make that miraculous run without his outstanding play - Hammond was great but Karlsson was the engine of the last 30 games that season. In 15-16 they aren't drafting 11th but 2nd-5th if he wasn't playing at the highest level almost every night. 16-17, well, we know what happened those playoffs, and the season was just as good. 18-19 when the Sharks got rolling in January there were many contributing factors but Erik was most certainly at the forefront of that.
Maybe, just maybe we'll see him play like he did in 18-19, but I doubt he can. He's a competitive guy though, and you can bet he's not happy with his level and wants that to change. Injuries suck and his injuries have come to his greatest asset, and there wasn't even anything he could do about it (Cooke, blocked shot). You have to wonder if he made a deal with the devil as a child to be blessed with the gifts to become an NHL superstar for the cost of a shooting star that burns out too fast.
Anomie2029
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He can join the rush, but like tonight shows - whenever he does, the forwards don't bother to cover him. Literally he had a shift where he broke it out, dumped, chased, stole the puck, and put the puck near the paint, and somehow forwards still got caught out and let a breakaway the other way. Another time he joins the rush, feeds it Labanc out wide and heads towards net on a 3 on 2 - but Labanc just panic flings a muffin on net before giving anyone a chance to get to the net.
PattyLafontaine
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After today at 5 on 5:
Corsi - 36%
Scoring Chance for: 26%
Goals for Percent: 0%
xGF - 29%
High Danger Chances for - 29%
At least on the bright side Vlasic, Karlsson, and Burns are all in top 5 of Expected Goals against! Elite.
That 32.5% of the cap is performing very well.
Corsi - 36%
Scoring Chance for: 26%
Goals for Percent: 0%
xGF - 29%
High Danger Chances for - 29%
At least on the bright side Vlasic, Karlsson, and Burns are all in top 5 of Expected Goals against! Elite.
That 32.5% of the cap is performing very well.
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