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McOvechking
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And yet it's a terrible offer. The difference between EK and Krug is not Carlo and a 2nd. That's pretty laughable.
Ottawa should ask for DeBrusk, Krug, and a 1st.
Yet its still miles ahead of the Cal foote a late first and another prospect......
McOvechking
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Yep,many in Ottawa feel PD will wait this out..If the offers dont improve,we do have that option yet people seem to think we wont use it....We made Yashin come back from Russia after sitting out a full season,and play his owed season out until the TDL ...We can take shit later,no sense in taking it now
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And Stevie would have no problem picking him up for free next season lmao. Your constant insistence that like Yzerman needs to overpay or he won't get him is comical.
He'll give what he feels is fair value and that's it. Let him go to Toronto on a rental. It's not some kind of threat lol
JoemAvs
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Well the problem is that in order for your strategy to make any sense, the offers a few months from now would have to be atleast somewhat in the ballpark AND there would have to be a somewhat reasonable scenario in which the offers significantly improve. Otherwise there is simply no real benefit at all to waiting. Only downsides.
And given that Tampa seems to be EKs preferred destination and him holding all the cards when it comes to signing an extension, I am just no sure that waiting is smart.
Sure the offers might suck for a player like EK. But it is what it is.
Sergachev (or even Foote), Cirelli, Raddysh, capdump, conditional 1st, 2nd (just spitballing here so don't get too hung up on the offer) might not be an amazing offer.
But its still almost twice as much as EK will fetch as a pure rental. Odds are Tampa is not coughing up Foote or Sergachev at the deadline for a guy they are the favorites to sign in the summer anyways for 1 playoff run.
They probably rather wait till the summer and use half of he assets they would be trading now to move enough pieces to gain the caproom for Kucherov/Karlsson/Point down the line.
EK at the deadline will have rental value. That means a late 1st,a 2nd, a B+ prospect and maybe something else of mediocre value thrown in.
Does not matter how good EK is. You only spend so much on one playoff run.
Its PDs best bet by far to make the best deal right now with a team that will re-sign EK right now. Especially if his preferred destination is really Tampa Bay because odds are that Tampa will easily a playoff team with or without Karlsson and barring injuries there is simply no scenario where Yzerman will be more motivated to make a beneficial deal for Ottawa then right now right after Toronto landed Tavares.
With what money???You seem to think we have no other choice but accept any deal tossed our way and be grateful...Iam just telling you it wont happen this way,we have some leverage ...And if EK really wants out before training camp opens and he has no other choice but to play for us...He might be willing to add some other teams he would be willing to resign with...
BrendanGallagher11
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The leafs should get in on this before he goes to tampa
They got the prospects and picks to acquire him
Nylander prospect pick for
Signed karlsson
They got the prospects and picks to acquire him
Nylander prospect pick for
Signed karlsson
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Or we can tell EK to come to camp and honor his contract,in which he will be playing for his wanted huge payday...Or if wants no part of this which would be highly likely,give Ottawa more options than just TB that he would be willing to resign with...
Again we have more leverage with him than most people want to admit here
I'm down with the Karlsson to Toronto rental idea. Pay up Steve or you can enjoy watching Karlsson destroy your team as a Leaf in the playoffs.
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Why would he do that if he only wants to resign with TB?
And I dont think Ottawa has that much leverage to be honest if he only wants to resign with TB.
Then he can play for us until the TDL and we can trade to whichever 21 teams he doesnt have on his 10 team list....And then after all that sign with TB....
JoemAvs
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Thats fine if you do that. But what do you gain from that? Maybe he is ok with going to Dallas as well. But Nill isn't the person to cave IMO and with Heiskanen out of he deal, what really do you gain exactly from that?
Karlsson is not going to lose that game of chicken. He will not agree to spend the next 8+ years of his life in a place he is not fond of in exchange for a couple of horrible months with the Sens just because that team might offer Ottawa someone better. He knows that the Sens will have to trade him at the deadline at the latest regardless. EK bolting for free via UFA should not be a realistic option and EK knows that. He also knows that ultimately he holds all the leverage because even Dorion knows that the sooner he pulls the trigger, the better for him.
This is not like Duchene who had an extra year on his contract. Dorion can't wait this out and pray like Sakic did. And I was screaming at Sakic back then and everyone knew that Duchene had to go at last years deadline at the very latest because otherwise we would have been as screwed (if not more) as Dorion is right now.
He needs to get the most respectable deal he can get right now and move on. And if Yzerman is not offering up Sergachev ( if he is on the table with a decent +, Dorion should have done the deal yesterday), he needs to put the full court press on McPhee and get this done.
But given how quiet it has become around the team that has been linked forever with EK, I wouldn't be surprised if EK is not very fond of signing longterm with Vegas which might kill that possibility.
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Yeah, I don’t see why Ottawa would have to get bullied into dealing with just one team. It didn’t work when Lindros tried to force Philly’s hand, and I don’t see why it would work now.
If Ottawa waits until the trade deadline, the top 8 contenders will have playoff fever, and would be willing to trade a ransom for Karlsson.
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That could definitely happen. And who is the biggest loser in that scenario? Ottawa, getting less value that they could have got.
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