Player Discussion Erik Gudbranson

[Cogburn]

Kind of an odd take comparing three defensemen who had glaring defensive issues with 2 hall of famers and Foote.

Overstatement. Physical D who were apparently a treat to have in the locker room was all I was drawing attention to. Well that and the fact we seem to despise those kinds of D in Vancouver.

Sbisa = Blake would be a laugh though.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

You are a good one then, PM, but this forum seemed to have half it's regular posters hating on Bieksa every thread.

I'll grant you the cap hit is trouble, but you'd honestly take Sbisa over Gudbranson at the same cap hit?.

I think so... Barely. But that might be my bias against Gudbranson.
On a slightly lower cap hit, easily.

As for the useless hit and exactly 2 fights a year, we have no one that does that much any more, and people are saying he's either not doing enough of that, and the next day he shouldn't do any of it. If the bar is spinning around like a marching band leaders' baton, no one can compete with that.

Good players don't chase hits that take them out of the play more than the player they are hitting.
Im not convinced his fights did any good for us this year. I don't remember his previous fights for us tbh.


edit. I honestly cant believe Guds is good guy to have in the locker room either. He is over paid, under-performs and threw Hutton under the bus in an interview.

 

[Cogburn]

I think so... Barely. But that might be my bias against Gudbranson.
On a slightly lower cap hit, easily.

Good players don't chase hits that take them out of the play more than the player they are hitting.
Im not convinced his fights did any good for us this year. I don't remember his previous fights for us tbh.

edit. I honestly cant believe Guds is good guy to have in the locker room either. He is over paid, under-performs and threw Hutton under the bus in an interview.

Sbisa was, at best, Gudbranson without the hits/fights here. His cap hit might have been higher, proportionately, while he was here too.

Didn't Hamonic have something he did to one of our guys last year? Not a defense of the fight, or saying that it was more of a spark or deterrent then anything else. As for the hits, yes, good players don't go chasing them. I'm not arguing he is a smart player or an effective hitter, just that we have no one to fill any physical role on this team, and he's not the worst D on this team by a long shot.

Locker room stuff is all insiders and Florida players and other players interviews and the like. It could be pure speculation, but I've never seen someone contradicted with evidence, from any sources, when it's said, and usually who ever says it has a news article or audio clip to go with it if pushed. I'm not a Canucks player, I don't know directly of course.

 

[WTG]

edit. I honestly cant believe Guds is good guy to have in the locker room either. He is over paid, under-performs and threw Hutton under the bus in an interview.

Imagine being Hutton, having to play with a guy who threw you under the buss and at the same time is holding you back big time.
If I was Hutton I'd be pretty frusterated.

Also, to touch on what others have said. Gudbranson and Sbisa are 100% comparable, both are useless at transitioning the puck, bad in front of the net, throw the occasional big hit.

 

[VanJack]

With the exception of Edler, watching this Canuck blueline try to win a puck battle along the wall is like watching a sparrow in a windstorm. Gudbranson is basically the only consistent physical d-man they have, other than Del Zotto. And he's basically a turnover machine.

Someday maybe the Canucks will be successful in drafting a Chris Pronger, Shea Weber or-Brent Seabrook kind of d-man who can deliver both offense and a stiff check.

 

[PG Canuck]

Gudbranson still proving he’s a fake tough guy.

 

[Zippgunn]

So when EP gets dumped weeks ago almost this entire board freaks out on EG because apparently it's his job to prevent anybody ever hitting one of our stars and even though nobody on the ice saw it he is castigated for not going full Bertuzzi on the guy despite being told by his coach to cool it. Tonight he clocks the perpetrator of a dirty head shot with a solid (if also slightly dirty) uppercut and people here want him suspended. Bunch of hypocrites I say...

 

[PG Canuck]

So when EP gets dumped weeks ago almost this entire board freaks out on EG because apparently it's his job to prevent anybody ever hitting one of our stars and even though nobody on the ice saw it he is castigated for not going full Bertuzzi on the guy despite being told by his coach to cool it. Tonight he clocks the perpetrator of a dirty head shot with a solid (if also slightly dirty) uppercut and people here want him suspended. Bunch of hypocrites I say...

Because he’s a chickenshit and he proves it. Fight like a f***ing man. I would expect what he did from Granlund. Mind you, I didn’t really care about it and thought Martel deserved it, but the fact Gudbranson is the one doing it says so much about his tough guy reputation

 

[Shattered Dreams]

Just when you thought the lug would do something after that uppercut in the scrum, not a f****** peep in the third. I know that Tanev goal killed any chance of retribution, but that was a flaccid third period out of Guddy. He did literally nothing. Guess he's only accountable when he can be the third man in.

 

[TruKnyte]

I can't think of a single thing Gudbrandson brings that Biega can't do better. Seriously, someone please tell me because I can't figure out why Green consistently has him in the lineup.

 

[Breakers]

I have no problem with the uppercut

Martel is a nobody

 

[Foundational Player]

Gudbranson still proving he’s a fake tough guy.

Also demonstrating how terribly he plays defense. A solid -4 tonight and wearing his tank commander hat with pride.

I thought it was hilarious in the first when Cirelli knocked him down in front of his net and just stood over him for a few seconds before Guddy realized that he should get up and hit the guy who is 40 pounds lighter and had just planted his ass on the ice.

 

[Intangibos]

So when EP gets dumped weeks ago almost this entire board freaks out on EG because apparently it's his job to prevent anybody ever hitting one of our stars and even though nobody on the ice saw it he is castigated for not going full Bertuzzi on the guy despite being told by his coach to cool it. Tonight he clocks the perpetrator of a dirty head shot with a solid (if also slightly dirty) uppercut and people here want him suspended. Bunch of hypocrites I say...

I don't care about him coming in and getting some dirty punches in, I care about how he got those dirty punches in.

On the icing call Martel skated right by him after the whistle and Gudbranson just didn't take notice. Virtanen took a bee-line from the high slot over to the boards to engage Martel while Gudbranson stood there, and that's fine at this point for Gudbranson to stand there and not get involved to box other players out, but then after Martel has been tied up for a while Gudbranson saw an opportunity to actually drop his gloves and get some punches in.

He's a candy-ass, that was some Matt Cooke tier chickenshit. If him and Virtanen both went at the guy I would have been fine with it, if Gudbranson went in and just attacked the guy I would have been fine with it, but instead he lets Virtanen get involved and once Gudbranson has absolutely no threat of being hit back he decides to get in the mix. What a joke.

This is a guy who called out his team for not standing up for Boeser last year. This year so far he has failed to stand up for: Pettersson getting slammed to the ice, Boeser taking a crosscheck in his previously broken back, and Stetcher getting TKO'd.

I would be absolutely furious at Gudbranson if I were his teammate and he had the audacity to call me and the other guys out when he does nothing unless someone drops the gloves and starts throwing at him. Even Boeser stood up for Pettersson who then had Hutton come save him. No different than Prust coming here and not bothering to stand up for the kids with "they need to learn to look after themselves".

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I have no problem with the uppercut

Martel is a nobody

I loved the uppercut. It was gold I tells ya...pure gold!

*liked it when he stared down the Tampa bench and no one had f*** all to say to him too. That's our boy

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I've never appreciated Gudbranson more than right now, just having watched the Tampa game.

That is what he is paid to do.

 

[Intangibos]

I've never appreciated Gudbranson more than right now, just having watched the Tampa game.

That is what he is paid to do.

To wait for Virtanen to respond so that he can safely get a few shots in? Maybe we should just give Virtanen the money instead.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

To wait for Virtanen to respond so that he can safely get a few shots in? Maybe we should just give Virtanen the money instead.

I probably hate Guds the hockey player more than anyone on these boards, but you are being unfair.

He gooned it up good.

 

[leftwinglockdown]

I've never appreciated Gudbranson more than right now, just having watched the Tampa game.

That is what he is paid to do.

Paid $4 million a year to get scored on every night and be a fake tough guy. Well earned I'd say.

 

[Intangibos]

I probably hate Guds the hockey player more than anyone on these boards, but you are being unfair.

He gooned it up good.

I'm glad he did it, but he chose the most chickenshit time to do it after one of our kids engaged and the guy was tied up.

I'm all about going at one of these guys, but when our supposed tough guy just lets the guy who put Stetcher out skate right by only to finally get involved once there is no risk of him getting hit back it's not him being a tough guy, it's embarrassing. If it were Motte, or Granlund, or Schaller, or Pouliot, or Goldobin, or Beagle etc I would have been happy with it.

Do you think Gudbranson would have responded the way Hutton did? I'm not so sure, and I don't think Hutton plays nearly as physical as he should. There is a chance as Gudbranson has some level of willingness to get in the mix, but he never engages it himself. MAYBE he gets involved in the Boeser incident because he feels pressured to do so, but I'm really not so sure.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I'm glad he did it, but he chose the most chicken**** time to do it after one of our kids engaged and the guy was tied up.

I'm all about going at one of these guys, but when our supposed tough guy just lets the guy who put Stetcher out skate right by only to finally get involved once there is no risk of him getting hit back it's not him being a tough guy, it's embarrassing. If it were Motte, or Granlund, or Schaller, or Pouliot, or Goldobin, or Beagle etc I would have been happy with it.

Do you think Gudbranson would have responded the way Hutton did? I'm not so sure, and I don't think Hutton plays nearly as physical as he should. There is a chance as Gudbranson has some level of willingness to get in the mix, but he never engages it himself. MAYBE he gets involved in the Boeser incident because he feels pressured to do so, but I'm really not so sure.

I don't think he would. At least historically he hasnt.

But this is the most I've ever liked him.

 

[Intangibos]

I don't think he would. At least historically he hasnt.

But this is the most I've ever liked him.

I think we're mostly on the same page. I liked what he did, but I don't like it in the context of Gudbranson in general.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

I don't think he would. At least historically he hasnt.

But this is the most I've ever liked him.

You're right, he did do all of that tonight. His toughness is real.

Now if we could only get him signed to a Dalton Prout-like contract

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

I honestly cant believe Guds is good guy to have in the locker room either. He is over paid, under-performs and threw Hutton under the bus in an interview.

Very early next season Hutton will hit 300 NHL games played. All will be well.

Dr. Feel Gud guarantees it.

 

[Bougieman]

Just when you thought the lug would do something after that uppercut in the scrum, not a f****** peep in the third. I know that Tanev goal killed any chance of retribution, but that was a flaccid third period out of Guddy. He did literally nothing. Guess he's only accountable when he can be the third man in.

Well Horvat said they had a talk during the intermission where they decided as a team to not do anything more in terms of starting stuff, and try to beat them on the scoreboard. He was trying to be a good teammate.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

One thing I would note is that all of this stuff probably began with Antoine Roussel beating the shit out of little Yanni Gourde. That clearly made them mad and imo led directly to Martel headshotting Stecher, which of course led in turn to the lid blowing off the thing.

I and others here suspected at the time the Roussel signing would lead to reprisals against our players in response to his antics and I think we can chalk up a concussion for Stecher in all likelihood to this.