I am no Arsenal fan and the Tomiyasu red card should have been reviewed. Also I am not asking for the referee to make all perfect decisions but to be consistent. Many times, players have been gesturing cards to official or kicking the ball and have not been called. (Not just with LFC for all clubs). They simply don't apply the same rules accross all games.
This is an absurd standard.Yes. That's what VAR is supposed to do. Only send the official to the monitor for major decisions. Like PK, goals, red card decision.
That is why the Premier League have the worst officiated match in all the big leagues.
Where you got that? All officials can signal for yellow offense.
Just last week, they did not even reviewed the MacAllister or Tomiyasu. I am fine if they send the referee to watch the incident again and then adjust their decision. The officials are all friends and nobody challenge their decisions because it's disrespectful.
Yes. That's what VAR is supposed to do
Yellow cards can also be signaled by assistant referee and 4th official too.
Where did I mention review yellow cards with VAR?
The VAR official reviewed the MacAllister challenge and determined there had been no clear and obvious error by the official. Obviously PGMOL now believes that was an incorrect decision given the apology and the overturn of it after, but it 100% was reviewed.
Okay, so you're saying they should have caught Joelinton with VAR but you don't want VAR to be used for yellow cards?
Just for the record, did any mention the refs birthplace this Matchweek besides you? And is it a lie that Todd increased his offer to/was offering the agent more money? Was it a lie that the agent used LFC in bad faith? Just fact checking.
Oh if it wasn't this matchweek, it didn't happen. We can stop talking about the Mac Allister card, then. As for the rest, I refuse to rehash a conversation that has been had multiple times and has, in each instance, ended with you insisting that speculation is actually evidence. It's a shame this message board doesn't allow for 12(b)(6) motions.
For what it's worth, I want it on the record that I don't believe in refspiracies, I just think we've been screwed by the refs on some occasions. That said, find me a team that hasn't and you'll show me Man United.
Never said that. I said that they missed Joelinton actions that warranted yellow cards and it's not just the main officials that can call these yellow cards. The lineman and even the 4th official can advise a referee for a missed yellow card action. Also, if they start calling these yellow card gesture, they have to be consistent through the whole game, again related to consistency in all their decisions not just about LFC.
Okay. We discussed the Joelinton missed call, the TAA call, and the Tomiyasu calls. All of which are revolving around yellow card offenses. You asked for consistency regarding these calls, to which I responded that requesting perfection from humans is a fool's errand. You then said that is why they have monitors. I'm happy to hear what you meant by that statement if you did not mean that monitors should be used to ensure consistency around yellow card offenses, as would be facially apparent given the contours of the conversation.
If it wasn’t this Matchweek, then it’s not relevant to this Matchweek. Everyone here is just saying the refs have been consistently bad.
How do we know refs have been consistently bad if we are only looking at this matchweek?
Because they were consistently bad this Matchweek. And you can check against previous matchweeks to reinforce additional data if you need to.
No, you very specifically said I can't check against previous matchweeks, because it is irrelevant. So you must show that across this matchweek, each ref was similarly bad. To that end, please show me where a yellow card was or was not issued for someone making a carding motion, other than Joelinton.
Let's go:
1. isn't reviewable. Neither is 2. 3., if no one sees it, then what? 4. was reviewed and upheld.
1, 2 and 3 should be reviewable.
VAR clearly did not do their job properly if they deemed that the Mac Allister was not an obvious error and not reviewable. The referee should have been sent to the monitor.
Yeah, I can see why there is no provision for reviewing yellows, similar to how the NHL doesn't review minor penalties--not only are you opening up for 3-6 additional reviews per match, you are also opening up the possibility of reviewing non-yellow calls to determine whether they merit a yellow. That has potentially a huge disruption on game timings and flow of play. I can see an argument if said yellow is a second, but then you are making a semi-arbitrary exception in the rule--what if the yellow isn't a second but leads to a suspension through accrual, should that also be reviewed? Yellows can also (if infrequently) have fair play ramifications on standings or qualifications, how is it fair to review some (because they were a second) but not others? Etc, etc...
The yellow card review should be done when it's an obvious error, like no contact at all, etc, not for every yellow card actions.
