EK is not coming to the Pens. There is no deal that makes sense here
Dont get me wrong .. I'd love him here. But it not going to happen in any reality.
Dont get me wrong .. I'd love him here. But it not going to happen in any reality.
Proposal: EK to Pittsburgh
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stempniaksen
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Enlighten us, because right now it looks like the Pens best trade chips are either too old or too expensive for the Sens to take on
Then clearly you don’t know anything about the Pens roster?
I’m not going to do your homework for you. You have access to the internet and can look for yourself.
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stempniaksen
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tony d
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The only way Karlsson goes to the Pens is if Malkin is coming back to Ottawa. I may overvalue the Sens players but Malkin for Karlsson isn't going to happen. So no deal to be had.
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Enjoy your freedom, you wintertimer.
danyhabsfan
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How so? The reason it’s only 1st+Suzuki is because Vegas is taking Ryan back as well. If it was just Letang the price would be much higher, so ur getting a #1 dman for reallly cheap.
danyhabsfan
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I don't think Letang is a #1 defenseman right now. He has slowed down a lot.
PensRedwings2887
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Ah yes, because Ottawa really wants a 31-year old Sidney Crosby while trying to rebuild their team.
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haha, there are a lot of things you can complain about with Letang. He speed is not one of them hahah classic HF.
But there’s no strategic benefit to either side. Weber is at least a significantly different type of #1D compared to Subban.
You’re suggesting offensive PMD for offensive PMD.
Also, Letang isn’t of the same caliber, so it wouldn’t be a 1-for-1.
What COULD make sense is a three-way deal that sends Letang somewhere else. I could see that making sense.
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I get the point you're trying to make, but your analogy isn't accurate. The difference between Karlsson and Letang isn't anywhere close to as big as the difference between Crosby and Backes.
Letang's still a top pairing defender. He still produced 50 points in a down year. At their best, Karlsson's a 70+ point guy, Letang's a 60+ point guy. At their best, Karlsson is the best defenseman in hockey, while Letang has finished as high as 4th in Norris voting and has also finished 7th at another point in his career.
Backes produces at a third line rate at this point and even at his best never came close to producing what Crosby did.
molon labe
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The gap between Letang and EK is exponentially less than the gap between Backes and Crosby.
- Letang will make 4-5M less than EK over each of next 5 years. Is production per $ that different?
- Letang puts up similar numbers
- Letang plays / can play similar minutes
- Letang and EK have similar speed
- Passing abilities are very, very similar.
Yes EK is the better player (second best defender in the NHL in my opinion), has less games missed to injury, takes less penalties, and with the time given - makes less mistakes.
Backes? Makes 2.7M less than Crosby... aaand that's where the comparison even comes remotely close. Utterly ridiculous comparison.
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Any trade involving the Pens (somewhere EK would likely re-sign, which must be taken into account) without Ryan attached, absolutely gets you one of the bright young players (Guentzel /Sprong /Jarry) and draft picks. However, the Pens would want salary (Schultz /Letang /Kessel) going back in order to re-sign him- and depending on which player goes back, the package would change. None of the above are cap casualties - and each is absolutely worth their current contract. If the trade includes Ryan - then the Pens would flat out be off the table. His cap hit coupled with EK's significantly cripples our team going forward.
