Speculation: Eichel Mega Thread V

[Volica]

on the FAN960 Friedman says the Flames are still in on Eichel. It's a big price.

Yeah, I said on the Flames board a while ago my 'insider' told me that they have a trade tabled and that the discussions aren't just 'check-ins' with Jack.
I think right now it's a waiting game to see who flinches first.

 

[displacedsabre]

No deal . Sabres want that unprotected. That's a big piece and jk for sure. Maybe a romonov and it's close.

They get Eichel that pick likely is in the 20s, just know that

 

[is the answer jesus]

Logic game:

If Eichel needs surgery before playing...

AND Buffalo refuses to allow him to have said surgery...

AND rehab from surgery will be months in length

AND teams trade at the deadline for players that help their short term playoff chances

Then...

We can deduce that Eichel's value will NOT go up at the trade deadline.

We don't know that Eichel: "needs surgery before he can play". He was playing through the injury last year and they shut him down seemingly because it was a lost season and his pain wasn't subsiding. There were discussions between Eichel's camp and the organization about a resolution regarding his neck. Maybe that was a trade, maybe he's softened his stance on the fusion surgery, maybe it's recovered enough that surgery is on the back burner for now. We have no idea.
Lets assume in the next few weeks though trade offers go nowhere and surgery does happen either Buffalo or Eichel gives in. He'll have those months to recover and very likely be prepared to play and contribute post trade deadline. The nightmare scenario is obviously Eichel won't budge the team won't budge and he's unable to play.

 

[Fatass]

If we get Eichel, that 1st is definitely going to be in the back half of the round

Unless Jack needs neck surgery and misses 50 games. Big risk, but potentially high reward

 

[Big Empty]

No deal . Sabres want that unprotected. That's a big piece and jk for sure. Maybe a romonov and it's close.

I have no issue giving up the 1st.

I’d offer KK + Guhle + Primeau + 1st

 

[Techcoockie]

KK + 2022 first + Drouin (need a salary back) + Tuch + Ghule.

This should do it

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

saturday night hockey

Montreal vs Toronto

Matthews vs Eichel

lets do it Bergevin give anything aside from Suzuki or Caufield

 

[Big Empty]

Unless Jack needs neck surgery and misses 50 games. Big risk, but potentially high reward

That’s definitely true and something to consider.

Having a healthy Eichel and Suzuki down the middle with Caufield, Hoffman, Anderson, Toffoli, Gallagher on the wings would be unreal. Our D is solid and then you have a guy like Price in nets.

Interesting to see what happens.

 

[EichHart]

Eichel is not going to Habs.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Eichel is not going to Habs.

If the price is right, he will!

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Eichel is not going to Habs.

okayyy Kevyn Adams

 

[Volica]

saturday night hockey

Montreal vs Toronto

Matthews vs Eichel

lets do it Bergevin give anything aside from Suzuki or Caufield

Pass.

Calgary vs Edmonton
Eichel vs McDavid

That's where the money is. Unlike Habs fans, everything's on the table here

 

[The don godfather]

I have no issue giving up the 1st.

I’d offer KK + Guhle + Primeau + 1st

Its close. Mayhe flip flop primeau for romonov because sabres got that goalie Levi kid.

 

[Flash20]

Buffalo doesn't want KK

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Eichel is a good fit for the Flames.

1. They need a shake up
2. They have Monahan they could move to recoup assets.
3. Theyre in "win now" mode but need to re-tool.
4. They're in the west, which Buffalo will like.
5. They have Tkachuk and Gaudreau to re-sign. Buy-in becomes much easier when you get a guy like Eichel. Paying a steep price for Eichel also gets more palatable when you know it helps you keep Tkachuka nd Gaudreau long term.
6. They have some good defensemen and they could stand to move on from.
7. They have a a good young forward in Mangiapane to include.
8. I dont think theyre worried about moving future picks.

About the only downside I can see is that they might be a bit more "player heavy" than prospect heavy, which buffalo is looking for.

Edit: Repeated myself about monahan.

 

[Snippit]

As a Sabre fan I don’t really want LHD prospects.

Here’s our current leftie depth chart:
Dahlin, Power, Johnson, Samuelsson, Bryson. More than enough to round out that side for the next decade.

Our right side is just Jokiharju long term and maybe Laaksonen.

So I don’t see the need for Romanov/Guhle. We need forward prospects more than anything, and RHD.

 

[EichHart]

If the price is right, he will!

never!

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

Habs might as well offer kk+guhle+ two first rounders with conditions in terms of games played. Can a team put 1st rounders with games played and if he plays a certain amount of games the picks become unprotected? So if he plays like 60 games those 1st become unprotected and if not they are like top 5 protected or something?

Those games played are examples obviously but is this doable and legal?

 

[Captain97]

Habs might as well offer kk+guhle+ two first rounders with conditions in terms of games played. Can a team put 1st rounders with games played and if he plays a certain amount of games the picks become unprotected? So if he plays like 60 games those 1st become unprotected and if not they are like top 5 protected or something?

Those games played are examples obviously but is this doable and legal?

I don't see why it wouldn't be, why not just make the pick top 3 protected at that point though. Cause the only way we end up top 5 worst team would be if Eichel misses basically about half the year.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

As a Sabre fan I don’t really want LHD prospects.

Here’s our current leftie depth chart:
Dahlin, Power, Johnson, Samuelsson, Bryson. More than enough to round out that side for the next decade.

Our right side is just Jokiharju long term and maybe Laaksonen.

So I don’t see the need for Romanov/Guhle. We need forward prospects more than anything, and RHD.

we just drafted Logan Mailloux

 

[Kranix]

Yeah, I said on the Flames board a while ago my 'insider' told me that they have a trade tabled and that the discussions aren't just 'check-ins' with Jack.
I think right now it's a waiting game to see who flinches first.

Anything in the organization except Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Cornetto.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Pass.

Calgary vs Edmonton
Eichel vs McDavid

That's where the money is. Unlike Habs fans, everything's on the table here

Montreal and Toronto are the bigger markets so pretty sure the money would be over here

 

[Volica]

Montreal and Toronto are the bigger markets so pretty sure the money would be over here...

You gain zero new people watching the Habs/Leafs game with Eichel included in there.
You actually have people out East staying up to 10pm to watch Eichel/McDavid provincial rivalry 1.

 

[Big Empty]

Montreal and Toronto are the bigger markets so pretty sure the money would be over here

Agreed

Montreal and Toronto >> Calgary and Edmonton, in terms of markets

 

[Volica]

Anything in the organization except Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Cornetto.

I've said it before in this thread:

On Calgary's end, I'd be fully onboard with:

One of Gaudreau or Tkachuk
One of 2022 first rounder or 2023 first rounder
One of Zary or Coronato

If adding Mangi to the trade, drives the price down on the futures, I'd be perfectly fine with that too.