Edmonton Oilers roster had they not made the Hall, Eberle and Reinhart trade

[Pizza the Hutt]

All those guys that were sent out were the core that lead to multiple 1st overall picks. You're surprised the Oilers got very little for them?

Out of that entire list, Hall, Petry and Perron were the only guys that had any value when they left the Oilers.

They all had value, but the Oilers organization drove down the perception of that value leading up to the trades. It's no coincidence that Dubnyk, Schultz, Yakupov, Hall and Eberle have all improved their game after leaving the Oilers. Nor is it a coincidence that the Oilers find themselves in the exact same position they were before these trades.

 

[Coffey]

They all had value, but the Oilers organization drove down the perception of that value leading up to the trades. It's no coincidence that Dubnyk, Schultz, Yakupov, Hall and Eberle have all improved their game after leaving the Oilers. Nor is it a coincidence that the Oilers find themselves in the exact same position they were before these trades.

We just gonna ignore the playoff run last year? Who knows, this year could be the outlier and next year they pick it up again.

 

[Pizza the Hutt]

We just gonna ignore the playoff run last year? Who knows, this year could be the outlier and next year they pick it up again.

Absolutely. In terms of the recent experiences of young teams, they could rebound quickly like Calgary did, but they could also suffer more like Colorado. We'll see.

 

[Juxtaposer]

I love how “the Oilers wouldn’t have taken Barzal anyway” is being used as a defense of the Oilers rather than another indictment.

 

[Coffey]

I love how “the Oilers wouldn’t have taken Barzal anyway” is being used as a defense of the Oilers rather than another indictment.

You can use the same indictment many other teams, why stop at the Oilers?

 

[ManofSteel55]

They all had value, but the Oilers organization drove down the perception of that value leading up to the trades. It's no coincidence that Dubnyk, Schultz, Yakupov, Hall and Eberle have all improved their game after leaving the Oilers. Nor is it a coincidence that the Oilers find themselves in the exact same position they were before these trades.

Dubnyk had no value. The Oilers didn't ruin him, he said himself that it was the trade from Edmonton (and then being purged by Nashville and Montreal too) that caused him to rethink his game and change the way he plays. He never would have gotten to where he is now as an Oiler. We got a decent third liner for a guy that ended that season being told to go home by the third team he played for that year, and only made it back because Arizona gave him a shot to come back as a backup.

Eberle used to have value. I agree that we held him for too long, but he was productive and they wanted him to be a part of the core. You can't trade every guy who starts to slip, you hope they figure it out and their game comes back. For Eberle in Edmonton, it didn't. Schultz and Yak have similar stories, sure we could have traded them when they had more value, but when they had more value they were playing well. They both regressed and their value hit rock bottom. Yak's regression I still blame on coaching, btw, and thank god that ahole is gone.

Hall was traded for a good player and a key piece for us. We maybe could have gotten better value, but not a better fit.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

What a piece of shit article. OP definitely got this from the Athletic. Which, the article, is what I’m calling a piece of shit.

Sweet, moves based on what if’s and hindsights.

Christ, you’d think an HFboards poster made it, but nope it’s the glorified pay for blog posts, sorry journalism.

 

[McFlyingV]

I love how “the Oilers wouldn’t have taken Barzal anyway” is being used as a defense of the Oilers rather than another indictment.

Why is that? Barzal's had a hot start, but he hasn't separated himself from guys like Boeser or Connor in anyway. If anything the Oilers could have used one of those 2 more than they need Barzal. Edmonton has too many playmakers and centres already, they need a goalscoring winger.

 

[Juxtaposer]

You can use the same indictment many other teams, why stop at the Oilers?

You act like I don’t roast the Sharks for not picking Barzal every day of my life.

 

[Icebreakers]

People need to stop acting like they traded Barzal. There is no guarantee they even select him. 16 other teams passed on his too.

Trading 2 firsts for Reinhart is still laughable, but what a team does with a pick has no barring on the actual trade.

There's actually a very big chance they would have taken him because he was protected to go so high. Usually you can't pass on on the guy at that pick unless if you ranked him really low. It's not like barzal was projected to go late teens and it was a coin flip. No,barzal was the unanimous pick at the time.

 

[oXo Cube]

It really doesn't matter who the Oilers would have taken.

They could have gone totally off the board and named someone that nobody even had ranked, and the trade would still be absolutely horrific.

That player would also probably be better at hockey than Griffin Reinhart.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

They all had value, but the Oilers organization drove down the perception of that value leading up to the trades. It's no coincidence that Dubnyk, Schultz, Yakupov, Hall and Eberle have all improved their game after leaving the Oilers. Nor is it a coincidence that the Oilers find themselves in the exact same position they were before these trades.

Nail Yakupov is shooting at a 19% shot percentage. His usual is around 9%.

 

[DKH]

Reinhart was the killer

Lot of good wingers there and Brandon Carlo sitting at 33

 

[YesCubed]

You can use the same indictment many other teams, why stop at the Oilers?

It was their pick for one...

There's also another thread bashing the Bruins for passing over him and Connor 3 times.

 

[Canada4Gold]

You can use the same indictment many other teams, why stop at the Oilers?

Nobody has stopped at the Oilers. Plenty of people have taken shots at the Bruins especially, as well as Dallas for going slightly off the board at 12. Even San Jose, Florida, and New Jersey's fans are probably still hating the choices their teams made.

The Oilers get it the most though because they traded that pick+ for a bust that had mostly already busted before the trade. I think that's fair. Top 3 fairest teams to ridicule for not taking the obvious pick of Barzal are 1. EDM, 2. BOS, 3. DAL IMO.

 

[NJ DevLolz]

You act like I don’t roast the Sharks for not picking Barzal every day of my life.

Same with Zacha over Barzal

 

[MatthewBarnabysTears]

It's amazing how Eberle was overpaid hot crap while he was an Oiler and now that he is not, and is still having an under performing year, he is part of the greatest top six. Hall is a talented winger but he is a minus player on a plus team.


It's kind of fun reading the mains.

Eberle is on pace for 30 goals and 60 points. Under performing?

 

[boredmale]

There's actually a very big chance they would have taken him because he was protected to go so high. Usually you can't pass on on the guy at that pick unless if you ranked him really low. It's not like barzal was projected to go late teens and it was a coin flip. No,barzal was the unanimous pick at the time.

It would be interesting to see who the Oilers drafted at 16. I wouldn't be surprised if they went for Defense

 

[Its a Trap]

They wouldn't be as desperate to trade Hall for Larsson with that lineup, but they may still trade Hall for Larsson+. Imagine Hall for Larsson and 1st, and it becomes 1st overall, the Oilers would have had 5 1st overall picks in one decade and 1 of them came to them even when they made it far in the playoffs.

Haha no because Nee Jersey wouldn’t trade Larsson and a 1st for Hall.

 

[JackSlater]

Edmonton was kind of backed into a corner with Hall and Eberle. They were going and everyone knew it. I don't know that they could have gotten a significantly better haul, but maybe they could have. It certainly pales in comparison into what Colorado got for Duchene. The Reinhart trade was terrible though, and it was from the moment that Edmonton made it. Pure idiocy, regardless of whether Barzal would have been the pick.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I love how “the Oilers wouldn’t have taken Barzal anyway” is being used as a defense of the Oilers rather than another indictment.

Do a f***ing re draft of that year and he does not get passed the Bruins. Convienant that only the oilers are subject to these Monday morning quarterback threads.

 

[GTislanders]

Why is that? Barzal's had a hot start, but he hasn't separated himself from guys like Boeser or Connor in anyway. If anything the Oilers could have used one of those 2 more than they need Barzal. Edmonton has too many playmakers and centres already, they need a goalscoring winger.

Barzal is a franchise center and, if anything, he could have easily 5-6 more points if his chances went in games 1-5. Edmonton is a dumpster fire. Dont talk down barzal to prove otherwise.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Barzal is a franchise center and, if anything, he could have easily 5-6 more points if his chances went in games 1-5. Edmonton is a dumpster fire. Dont talk down barzal to prove otherwise.

In a re draft he would be taken top 5. Where are threads bashing the ten other teams who passed on him.

Oilers had Nuge. Mcdavid. Leon D at center already. People are posting like barzal is the third coming of Christ and the oilers are the only team that passed on him

 

[Jumptheshark]

Barzal is a franchise center and, if anything, he could have easily 5-6 more points if his chances went in games 1-5. Edmonton is a dumpster fire. Dont talk down barzal to prove otherwise.

In a re draft he would be taken top 5. Where are threads bashing the ten other teams who passed on him.

Oilers had Nuge. Mcdavid. Leon D at center already. People are posting like barzal is the third coming of Christ and the oilers are the only team that passed on him

 

[Dion TheFluff]

It would be interesting to see who the Oilers drafted at 16. I wouldn't be surprised if they went for Defense

Chabot would have been really nice for them