It only made sense for the Oilers to trade him because he wouldn't sign and he would unquestionably be in the Oilers top 4 and probably on the Nurse pairing over Bear the way he's playing now. Any Oilers fan who says otherwise hasn't watched enough of Marino.
The Oilers gifted the Pens a really good one.
Seriously? Before the season started where was he going to fit on the Condors?
We had Bear (WHL D man of the year), Jones, Lowe (Captain), Bouchard (OHL D man of the year), Samurokov, Lagesson, and Day ahead of him. They brought in a 25 year old UFA in Persson who was like a school teacher part time two years ago and only started playing pro hockey two years ago. And they signed Vincent Desharnais the 2016 7th rounder. The NHL team had Kelfbom, Nurse, Larsson, Sekera, Russell, Benning, and ugh.. Manning.
Jones and Lagesson are NHL ready and will require waivers next season. Bouchard and Samurokov are high end rookies that need playing time. Bear made the NHL unexpectedly. Then the Oilers have Broberg overseas.
Marino looked at the list and said... no way am I signing! I'm happy for him but a D man like him is a not a big loss. It's bad enough Samurokov is buried on the bottom-pair with no PP time on the Condors.
It certainly makes this offseason easier. The two big UFAs are Schultz and Galchenyuk, and consensus was that after re-upping the RFAs there would only be enough money left for one of them. Now Schultz is a gonner, either now of in the summer, and while Chucky clearly doesn't have a future with the Pens, his cap space does in the form of an impact F. Krieder, Tatar, someone like that. Go fishing GMJR.This trade probably extends the Pens competitive window by 2 years.
It has nothing to do with not knowing what they had. He had the NCAA loophole where he didn't have to sign to play in Edmonton, and he wasn't going to. We either traded him for whatever the best offer was, or he was going to head to free agency. The Pens got a steal of a player, I wish Edmonton could have kept him, but the way it was working out, he was never going to play for the Oilers. They did what they could with the asset. Even if it was the case that our defense prospect rankings are too full for him to want to compete for a spot, well, there are guys that no team would have moved to make space for him - Bear, Jones, and Bouchard, and still two other really good prospects in Samurokov and Lagesson. The earlier 3 are guys that you build your future around anyway. The latter two are longer shots with tons of upside, but probably not enough trade value to make trading them worthwhile. Not to mention that absolutely nobody thought Marino was as good as he has shown to be anyway. A guy coming out of nowhere isn't bad asset evaluation when all teams likely had him valued that way.you're missing the entire point. I said talent evaluation was bad. The oilers didnt know what they had in marino is the point. But whatever yeah you can pretend like the oilers just got "unlucky" again and offloaded another good player for nothing.
It has nothing to do with not knowing what they had. He had the NCAA loophole where he didn't have to sign to play in Edmonton, and he wasn't going to. We either traded him for whatever the best offer was, or he was going to head to free agency. The Pens got a steal of a player, I wish Edmonton could have kept him, but the way it was working out, he was never going to play for the Oilers. They did what they could with the asset. Even if it was the case that our defense prospect rankings are too full for him to want to compete for a spot, well, there are guys that no team would have moved to make space for him - Bear, Jones, and Bouchard, and still two other really good prospects in Samurokov and Lagesson. The earlier 3 are guys that you build your future around anyway. The latter two are longer shots with tons of upside, but probably not enough trade value to make trading them worthwhile. Not to mention that absolutely nobody thought Marino was as good as he has shown to be anyway. A guy coming out of nowhere isn't bad asset evaluation when all teams likely had him valued that way.
He.you're missing the entire point. I said talent evaluation was bad. The oilers didnt know what they had in marino is the point. But whatever yeah you can pretend like the oilers just got "unlucky" again and offloaded another good player for nothing.
He.
Didn't.
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Edmonton.
It has nothing to do with poor talent evaluation or deck shuffling on the part of Edmonton. Why is this so difficult for some people?
Why is this thread still going? Just an outlet to bash the Oilers?? They had the wisdom to draft him in the first place. He did not want to sign in Edmonton, and that happens sometimes. He was about to become a UFA. He was traded with a return commensurate to the “gun to the head” scenario, again not Edmontons fault. Glad to see it work out for him in Pittsburgh. Other than that /thread.
First Schultz now Marino.
Pens might as well just draft forwards and goalies from now on. Oilers will hook em up with the dmen.
This trade probably extends the Pens competitive window by 2 years.