The Jackets do not need or want additional wingers; we have too many as is and are trying to get value for them, not add more. So JAD has no value to us, and Iafallo - due to his cap hit and term - is actually of negative value here. It'd be like us trying to trade y'all one of our RHDs.
The price is probably too high. It's a sellers market right now. He's probably hoping more options open up. Remember, as long as he fills that hole by the trade deadline we should be okay. Prices might come down after some other team starts making trades and taking them out of the running for guys like Gavrikov. He probably doesn't want to be the first one, in hopes the price goes down
I am sorry, but this offer is typical example of I will give you something I do not need for something I need offer.
ok i get y not iafallo but jad played center in jr and his first call up in nhl .He actually is best there imo He actually is on the wing because of the kings center depth I think he would flourish with you guys. The kid needs a chance to play imo Give me a counter offer please
Chairot had the "playoff warrior who led his team to the finals" thing going that Gavrikov doesn't have. That's pretty significant. It was also a bad trade...although there's always a few GM's who make bad deadline trades, so...yeah.
Huh? Gavrikov is a leftie that has almost only played the left side.
You drive a hard bargain. We'll upgrade Iafallo to Ardvidsson!
The only missing piece is that if we trade for and sign Gavrikov to at least a three year deal (ideally), then we have Nurse-Gavrikov-Kulak as our left defense locked up for at least the next three years. There's no spot on a contender to break in a young guy like Broberg if all 3 regular spaces are taken by pro's in their primes.
There's a lot more offense in his game than people realize, even if by reputation he's seen as more of a shutdown guy. Had 5-28–33 last year without any PP time. Also has two OT GWG this year, both on one-timers off the rush.
That sounds like it'd be Eric Robinson, who has some size and really good speed (gets a lot of PK chances) but lacks some finish. He'd be a somewhat valuable rental piece on his own, though.
If you want Kupari 2023 1st round pick will not be available from LA
He fits on almost any NHL team like a glove
Chychrun is an injury prone dman he has no value
I'm not sure if Holland would do his first and Broberg in this deal. Gavrikov, Robinson for Broberg, Pulujarvi and a mid round pick I could see, but Broberg is nearly NHL ready - he might be now to be honest. We just don't have the right makeup for another puck mover in our top six.
In deadpuck era, you didnt need to be an extra ordinary skater and postional defender. You just need to be strong and mean.
No, no buts. We have plenty of "this guy is currently playing wing BUT HE TOTALLY DID CENTER BEFORE" as well. Hell, our best center prospect (KJ) practically exemplifies this.
they will never find the bodySo Columbus needs centers.. how about Kerfoot?
The Preds fan in me still loves Arvy, but, no, the objections for the Jackets remain the same.
That's fair. Whatever it is that meets y'all's priorities. We're just hoping to have a value reclamation backup plan in case we can't keep him ourselves.
I think those are plausible for us. At the very least I can't find any immediate objections.
Those types of stats are heavily contextual IMO and don't paint a very complete picture because team systems/personnel fits vary greatly team-to-team. For CBJ, our team systems (and goaltending) are garbage – our whole defense looks lost all the time – and our personnel back there doesn't fit very well together.
The market for Gavrikov (a big-minute, versatile defenseman on a cheap contract) is going to be big enough that his value will, as the deadline approaches, grow to be "first round pick plus good prospect."
Personally, I agree that that's an overreach. Robinson is pretty highly valued here, but that's because 1) we're a bit short on guys who forecheck with the tenacity he does and 2) he's chilldhood buddy-buddies with Johnny Hockey. But that doesn't mean much of anything for other teams.
I think this is potentially undervaluing Broberg.
It's not that I have run out of patience with the kids but the Oilers need to win now and they aren't doing a very good job of it this year ! I'm glad we drafted the likes of Broberg and Bouchard but if we traded for a more experienced d-man who's better than both of these guys defensively and we were able to re-sign him long term then I wouldn't be against moving one of our two top D future players.
Broberg seems to be a 2 way defenseman, with his strength as a offensive man. The thing is that oilers already has 3 of those. Oilers needs defensive guys, that can bodycheck and be postional sound. I dobt get at all why Holland is so attached to Broberg, when he already had two of that kind in his house.
