His goals above replacement was top 3 in the league among dmen last year, you tell me. It's the same stat that validates Olier fans sentiment on Klefbom.
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His goals above replacement was top 3 in the league among dmen last year, you tell me. It's the same stat that validates Olier fans sentiment on Klefbom.
Mr Tadakichi
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two players that have only gotten better with every season they have played so far. No reason to think they will not continue in their growth.
The chance of them falling/regressing is pretty small all things considered. I hope the people saying that they could regress are not banking on it as their main argument, or else it would seem like they are stretching for arguments.
leafsfan1234
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Fair value for this contract although the Oilers should have been able to get him for around 7.5. This contract will look a lot better than McDavid's in a few years I'd say.
I missed him leading the nhl in ppg without mcdavid in the playoffs. I wonder who did that.
Donzo
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This is about what I was expecting and I'd say it's fair. The issue isn't whether Drai is overpaid (I don't think he is), it's how the other deals on the books make this cap hit much more difficult to fit in starting in 2018-19. But maybe RNH gets traded and it won't matter.
Should've traded him for picks ala Sweeny and Hamilton right?
Good luck with Pasta
The Winter Soldier
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21 million average of 10.5M per to lock up a 20-21 year old Mcdavid and Draisaitl in today's going rate for players, and people are criticizing Chiarelli. Lol. Tough crowd. He just ensured the Oilers as contenders for a decade with this 1-2 punch down the middle with more than enough cap space to fill out a supporting cast.
Fig
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LOL at the haters saying it's a horrible deal and good luck competing.
Forgetting for a sec that the cap goes up every year and that they have their #1 and #2 dmen locked up long term at 4.1 mil each...
They just traded Eberle's 6 mil for value. HFBoards Least Valuable Player. And you guys actually think they'd have a problem dumping better players in RNH and Lucic, if it came to it?
Horrible? No. It's fair value.
But it's also a contract that pretty much has low chances at being a bargain and it's low in flexibility.
Oilers were doing the smart thing once upon a time giving 6x6 to Hall, Eberle and RNH. If Drai falters, Chia's options are limited.
Deplorable Lenny
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No player can have a NMC or NTC for any of your RFA years. So basically any player who is less than 26 or has played less than 7 seasons iirc.
Curufinwe
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Did he trade away a talented young center for scraps again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRyIgatcTAs
Karsa Orlong
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Don't mind the deal, a bit high, but fair enough.
That leaves our core of top 2 C, and top 4 D, signed for pretty much the same price as Pittsburgh, the reining champs. And locked in at that price for at least the next 4 years. I don't mind that at all. Both will have to sign their goalies. Very similar cap situation IMO.
I think they move RNH after this season, and then try to move Sekera the year after that. Then if Lucic is starting to degrade we can offload him the year after that. It will all work out just fine, assuming some of our guys with potential pan out, guys like Pulj, Strome, Nurse, Benning, and Caggiula, to fill the gaps at a lower cost, or bridge deals.
That leaves our core of top 2 C, and top 4 D, signed for pretty much the same price as Pittsburgh, the reining champs. And locked in at that price for at least the next 4 years. I don't mind that at all. Both will have to sign their goalies. Very similar cap situation IMO.
I think they move RNH after this season, and then try to move Sekera the year after that. Then if Lucic is starting to degrade we can offload him the year after that. It will all work out just fine, assuming some of our guys with potential pan out, guys like Pulj, Strome, Nurse, Benning, and Caggiula, to fill the gaps at a lower cost, or bridge deals.
Seems like a fair contract.
The McDavid/Draisaitl contracts are both fair and lock up a terrific 1/2 punch down the middle for the next 8 years.
What I'd be concerned with if I was an Oilers fan would be Chiarelli's use of the cap to fill in the supporting cast.
The McDavid/Draisaitl contracts are both fair and lock up a terrific 1/2 punch down the middle for the next 8 years.
What I'd be concerned with if I was an Oilers fan would be Chiarelli's use of the cap to fill in the supporting cast.
Ducksforcup
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Kinda how I feel about this deal. He's a damn good player though and I'm sure they are happy to lock him up.
Brouwer, Eriksson, Ladd, Backes.....not even the worst of 2016
Johansen played in the finals?
Settle the **** down
I will agree that Scheifele and Laine have more value, although I'd like to see what Draisaitl does by the time he's 24 years old)
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THall4
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Love this. Salty Flamers fan...cant wait for 97 and 29 dominate you guys for the next 8/9 years.
Dominated the playoffs without McDavid
Unfortunately, Chia was in an almost impossible situation, so this was inevitable. Love the team, love the player, hate the deal. As good as he could be, he simply hasn't earned this in any way. Drai has a lot to prove...
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Signing young high pedigree star players to these deals coming right off of their ELC isn't very risky at all because the buyout formula for players under 26 is extremely generous. If a team buys out a player under 26, they only have to pay 16.67% of the cap hit for twice the remaining length. Despres on ANA is an example of this.
The only exception is when teams get wacky with signing bonuses. If there are lockouts caused by these contracts it won't be because players are getting contracts that are too big. It will be because players are getting contracts that are too big that are impossible to buyout, and that small market teams can't compete with because of the up front element of the signing bonuses.
With that said, you can't just look at risk as a 1 way street. There's risk a player signed to a big deal after their ELC won't live up to it, but there's also risk that they will cost more after a bridge deal, or considerably more for their UFA years that the team could have bought up. PK Subban is an example of this. What would it have cost MTL to lock him up for 6-8 years in 12-13? 5.5M-7M? Instead, they signed him to a bridge that resulted in him making 9.5M during multiple seasons that he'd overwise have been cost controlled at significantly less.
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Player Tm Salary Cap Hit
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Jonathan Toews CHI 13,800,000 10,500,000
Patrick Kane CHI 13,800,000 10,500,000
Anze Kopitar LAK 13,000,000 10,000,000
Alex Ovechkin WSH 10,000,000 9,538,462
Jamie Benn DAL 13,000,000 9,500,000
Evgeni Malkin PIT 9,500,000 9,500,000
P.K. Subban NSH 11,000,000 9,000,000
Sidney Crosby PIT 10,900,000 8,700,000
Corey Perry ANA 10,000,000 8,625,000
Steven Stamkos TBL 9,500,000 8,500,000
Henrik LundqvistNYR 9,000,000 8,500,000
Claude Giroux PHI 9,000,000 8,275,000
Jakub Voracek PHI 10,000,000 8,250,000
Ryan Getzlaf ANA 9,025,000 8,250,000
Brent Burns SJS 10,000,000 8,000,000
Joe Thornton SJS 8,000,000 8,000,000
Ryan Johansen NSH 8,000,000 8,000,000- Status
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