Confirmed Signing with Link: [EDM] Darnell Nurse signs extension (2 years, $5.6M AAV)

[Fourier]

Two arbitration years. I'm surprised people on here aren't aware of the difference between early and arbitration RFA years.

Cody Ceci got $4.3M in arbitration. Nurse would have likely got around what he's getting now.

This is exactly the point. They either do it this way which is amicable or they go through the arbitration route which no one ever wants.

 

[Kaner9]

My boy darnell getting good money for two years then ufa soon. Love it

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

Don't rly like the contract myself. THe cap hit would be fine on a longer contract. Oh well, show me contract.

edit: just saw the reasoning for this. I think it's good then if they have a plan in the future.

 

[Homesick]

6.8% of the cap is not an overpayment for Nurse.
Any idiot can see that theres an agreement in place between Nurse and the Oilers or this deal would have been done in the summer.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Even if Nurse wants to leave (he doesn't), or extract the Oilers for max value... there is ZERO chance that 28 GMS wouldn't be signing up for a sign-and-trade for a 26 year old Nurse with his unique skill set. It's silly to think he'd be traded "as a rental".

Never said Nurse "wanted" to leave. I don't know him personally and neither do you. Not necessarily a rental, but similar to a Duchene/Kane/Stone trade. Its never a good thing to not buy any UFA years.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Did this get pulled down from the stickies and then put back up?

Didn't it go from rumor/speculation to done deal ?

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

It has been widely reported that this was signed to provide the Oilers cap flexibility and that both parties plan to extend next summer when the Oilers have greater cap flexibility (and visibility) to make it happen.

They can't.

Earliest would be summer 2021.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Same breakdown that i got. I like our chances

Overly optimistic ?

Or

 

[NextYear67]

Overly optimistic ?

Or

Little bit of both. HF also told me that we wouldn't be able to sign JT, trade for Muzzin, trade for Barrie, acquire a legit backup AND address the need for toughness. Yet here we are

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Little bit of both. HF also told me that we wouldn't be able to sign JT, trade for Muzzin, trade for Barrie, acquire a legit backup AND address the need for toughness. Yet here we are

At least one of them is not a good thing...

 

[Highmarker]

This is a good deal for Edmonton. Nurse hasn't shown enough to lock up at a higher price. 2 years takes him to free agency then they can let him walk if they want.

 

[absolute garbage]

This seems bad. Nurse and Morrissey signed basically identical bridge deals in 2018, and are still similar level players, so I would've expected Nurse to sign the same kind of long term extension Morrissey did. Instead he signs a 2 year deal straight to UFA and it's barely even cheaper AAV than Morrissey's 8 year deal. Not a good look for Edmonton.

 

[CycloneSweep]

And it's been widely reported that the deal was done this way to provide the team with a bit of cap flexibility as he intends on signing an extension next summer.

But I see most everyone in this thread doesn't want to acknowledge that.

It's really not an overpay at all. But that's the beauty of opinions.

It was literally reported they were looking at a 2 year deal under 6 mill and then in the summer before year 2, a long term extension over 6 mill. This was done because Nurse wants to be an Oiler long term but the Oilers need the cap the next 2 seasons. From all accounts this was a team friendly option.

 

[Mr Positive]

This seems bad. Nurse and Morrissey signed basically identical bridge deals in 2018, and are still similar level players, so I would've expected Nurse to sign the same kind of long term extension Morrissey did. Instead he signs a 2 year deal straight to UFA and it's barely even cheaper AAV than Morrissey's 8 year deal. Not a good look for Edmonton

First off, our cap is just that tight that even saving 1 million in the short term is helpful.

But also, I agree that Nurse and Morrissey are similar in value, but in the previous season (the year most important to assessing value for this season), Nurse had the edge, both in points and in TOI. So if Morrissey's AAV was 6.25 million, Nurse's would be 6.75 or maybe even 7 if we add other intangibles like his physical edge.

Imo, this could be a huge win for the Oilers if Nurse re-signs in a year or two. Why? Because his next deal will start at age 27, and so an 8 year extension could have some cap saving years at the end. Even 1 or 2 years at less cash can be a big deal.

 

[LTIR]

Because 6.5m max is what he's worth. A good negotiator would have gotten him on that deal long term.

This is a poor deal for the Oilers. Gives them a little and I mean little cap flexibility for the next 2 years then he cashes in big after that or gets traded before, traded as a rental essentially since they can't trade him this off-season.

It is still better than locking up Nurse for 8 yrs at 7M per and have him turn into a unreadable player ala Phaneuf. At 5.6 M for 2 yrs Holland has bought himself some time. The cashing in big would depend on how he does this year and next. He wouldn't get a raise if his play doesn't improve. Cashing in big would be if he establishes himself as a true top pairing Dman

 

[Luminiferous]

Overpaid. I like it.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

How's a 2 years deal at 5.6M AAV that walks Nurse to UFA a good deal for the Oilers? Are you guys on drugs?
For a guy like Nurse a 6x6M AAV would have been a good deal, but 2 years for that much while walking the player to UFA isn't good.

I know this is super late however I see a lot of people thinking he is a 6x6 guy or something of the ilk.

Nurse potentially could be asking for minimum 8 million on a long term deal. The guy isnt going to sign a 6x6 deal.

I think the deal is a little high maybe 5 mill for 2 years but tbh this is his value hes a great player

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Didn't it go from rumor/speculation to done deal ?

I think maybe it just stayed in the unstickied section so long that I forgot it didn't go up and back or something.

 

[Hockeyfan398393]

oiler fans - meh not bad could've been better, not mad .
hf posters- Absolutely terrible. especially the draisitli contract.
ive learned alot of people don't like the oilers on here

 

[Habs Halifax]

Why not sign a 1 year deal? He still has 2 RFA years left. Not sure I like this deal for the Oilers. It favors Nurse by a wide margin IMO. Oilers dealing with cap issues I guess.

 

[McSpecial DraiBlend]

He will have the chance to prove in these two years he is worth more long term. He wants to be with the Oilers so I don't fear a deal getting down before he reaches UFA.

 

[bucks_oil]

the reasoning behind the deal makes sense, but what doesn't make sense is at that aav it should be 3 years.

What difference does the extra year make? He'd still be a UFA at the end. At three years, he becomes a UFA the same season as Klefbom... so 50% of our top four and arguably our two best defenders in the same year.

Moreover an 8 year contract for a 26 year old defender (from 26 to 34) is likely to be less expensive than an 8 year contract for a 24 year old top-2 defender. The former gets a bit of a discount on the tail end, while the latter is paying for "prime" the entire time... or worse yet in this case... the projection of what prime might be.

Let's put some numbers around it:

Current case: 5.6 - 5.6 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 and he's a UFA at age 34, meaning he's going to be on a shorter "twilight" deal
Big deal now: 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 - 7 ... and he's a UFA at age 32 again, meaning he's going to command "still prime coin"

You know-it-alls have it all figured out, but have failed to put any thought into the actual situation at play here. Such shrewd negotiators you are while sitting in a bubble.

 

[absolute garbage]

First off, our cap is just that tight that even saving 1 million in the short term is helpful.

But also, I agree that Nurse and Morrissey are similar in value, but in the previous season (the year most important to assessing value for this season), Nurse had the edge, both in points and in TOI. So if Morrissey's AAV was 6.25 million, Nurse's would be 6.75 or maybe even 7 if we add other intangibles like his physical edge.

Imo, this could be a huge win for the Oilers if Nurse re-signs in a year or two. Why? Because his next deal will start at age 27, and so an 8 year extension could have some cap saving years at the end. Even 1 or 2 years at less cash can be a big deal.

Even if you think that Nurse would've likely made slightly more than Morrissey, say 6.5M/yr, I really don't see that ~1M screwing the Oilers over in the next 2 years.

And there's absolutely no way a 27 year old takes a discount deal because of his age. No idea what you are smoking there. It's the perfect UFA age for a long term max contract he can possibly ask for.

 

[bucks_oil]

Why not sign a 1 year deal? He still has 2 RFA years left. Not sure I like this deal for the Oilers. It favors Nurse by a wide margin IMO. Oilers dealing with cap issues I guess.

A one year deal puts him an RFA at the exact time we are resigning Nuge and likely Larsson. Budget wise there is very little difference between a contract that is 1RFA+7UFA vs 8UFA... in the former, the guy either gets his number or calls the bluff and signs a one-year, "F-U" deal and the relationship goes sour.

 

[ManofSteel55]

With Klefbom, Broberg, Bouchard, Bear eventually becoming the future top four it makes sense to deal him after next season.

Broberg won't be close after next season. He'll still need some AHL time if he is even ready to come to NA yet.