Early Hart favourites?

[Fire Benning]

Edmonton is in a playoff spot right now fwiw.

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

I can confirm this is true. McDavid followed up his 100 point unsustainable season with a 108 point unsustainable season. At what point does he implode and turn into an unstable blackhole?

Obviously I am not talking about McDavid, as I just said he would win the Hart.. jesus.

 

[SecretOilersFan]

I guess we'll see. McDavid can only carry them so far.. look at last season.

Yeah teams have bad seasons nor have we made great decisions regarding the roster, special teams, goal tending decisions etc I am not denying that but even in the season when McDavid won the art ross and we went to the playoffs the % of offense he contributed for the team was actually lower compared to other Art Ross winners in the past.

Our last 3 wins McDavid only contributed 1 point in each and was only decided the game in one of those three. I think considering our beginning people have gone back to EDM is only McDavid though we have gotten a bit more depth scoring.

Don't get me wrong we are incredibly top heavy and don't have a ton of depth but it isn't just McDavid.

 

[OilCanada92]

Obviously I am not talking about McDavid, as I just said he would win the Hart.. jesus.

So guys like Draisaitl, Klefbom and Larsson have one great year and it's a fluke. Then they have one bad year and it's definitely who they are as players?

What about this season where all three seem to be even better than they were in 2016-17? The Oilers are 7-2-1 in their last 10 while playing the Pens, Caps, Jets, Hawks and Bruins. You think it's all because of McDavid?

 

[the4thlinegrinder]

If Talbot, Larsson, Draisaitl, et al are valuable enough to the Oilers that they make the playoffs then McDavid will win as the most valuable to his team. If his teammates are not valuable enough to make the playoffs, then McDavid will not be considered most valuable to his team, because reasons.

Yes, I’m still salty.

 

[2023FriendshipTour]

So guys like Draisaitl, Klefbom and Larsson have one great year and it's a fluke. Then they have one bad year and it's definitely who they are as players?

What about this season where all three seem to be even better than they were in 2016-17? The Oilers are 7-2-1 in their last 10 while playing the Pens, Caps, Jets, Hawks and Bruins. You think it's all because of McDavid?

Didn't you play like 3 of those teams on a second half of a back to back?

 

[PinSeeker]

Just looking at stats vs team expectations, Rantanen or Petersson at this point?

Gibson also

 

[OilCanada92]

Didn't you play like 3 of those teams on a second half of a back to back?

Yes. A few back to back games at the very beginning of the season when everyone is fresh is the difference between going 7-2-1 and being one of the worst teams in the league. That's the reason Klefbom and Larsson look so much better.

 

[Intangibos]

Most valuable player to his team? Pettersson has looked like the only valuable player on the Canucks for most of the year.

 

[North Cole]

Obviously I am not talking about McDavid, as I just said he would win the Hart.. jesus.

But you were talking about McDavid, because you said - "unsustainable seasons for all". Unless hes been waived (wouldnt surprise me given our management) he is part of that collective.

Thinking he could win the Hart doesnt preclude you from thinking he had prior unsustainable seasons. Those aren't mutually exclusive...we know however, that he didnt have unsustainable seasons, and I'm not convinced many others did either.

 

[mdobbs]

Most valuable player to his team? Pettersson has looked like the only valuable player on the Canucks for most of the year.

The Canucks are missing their top two D and are leading the division with a team people expected to finish bottom 3

If Pettersson keeps it up he’s winning the hart no question. He’s absolutely carrying this team

 

[Rowlet]

The Canucks are missing their top two D and are leading the division with a team people expected to finish bottom 3

If Pettersson keeps it up he’s winning the hart no question. He’s absolutely carrying this team

14/15 points were goals or primary assists he only has one secondary assist

 

[Intangibos]

The Canucks are missing their top two D and are leading the division with a team people expected to finish bottom 3

If Pettersson keeps it up he’s winning the hart no question. He’s absolutely carrying this team

Yeah, when you have Schaller and Motte in your top 6 along with Hutton-Gudbranson/Pouliot-Stetcher as your top 4 you should not be winning games. Pettersson is the anti-tank so far.

 

[rumrokh]

if not for ror the blues look way worse, maybe dont even win a game yet

hes even made sanford into a legit player somehow

usually nobody from the blues deserves talk for the hart cuz scoring is so spread out but hes been the carry this season

O'Reilly has been fantastic, but please explain in detail how this is a notch in his belt. Sanford is young, has always had good hands, shot, reach, skating, and vision; played his rookie year, and then was injured. He has played 49 AHL and 45 NHL games. Where is the body of work that suggests to you that O'Reilly is dragging him kicking and screaming from a plug to a "legit player"?

 

[McXLNC97]

They will most likely make it with McLellan, and he isn't the main problem in Edmonton.

He 100% is the main problem, no if's and or buts. Which idiot would keep going to the same 5 man left shooting #1 pp unit when it clearly isn't working.....Tmac that's who.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Not an Oilers fan but his team shouldn’t be holding him back from this award anymore. He’s the best player in the league trapped in an awful situation.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

If Buffalo makes the playoffs Eichel without a doubt deserves mention. He’seading the league in scoring since his top line was put together. Not saying this just because of my username either. That’s how Hart contention goes, if the top scorer doesent make the playoffs it will go to a guy who has a tremendous year that carries his team to the playoffs ala hall Mackinnon over
Mcdavid last year.


Eichel has been a beast this year in work ethic. He’s fifth in shots in the league, fourth in offensive zone possession, becoming a leader with the C of a winning team (record) as well as adapting becoming a two way forward this year with great physical play.

They were dead last the year before.

He’s plus 2. (For him that’s great with the ice time and buffalos back end not being tremendous)

17 pts in 14 games.

When I said he’s leading the league in scoring above since the line of skinner Pominville and him were out together, it’s from all the help Involved. Since Skinner and Pominville joined his line Skinner went from Two it’s in 6 games to 14 pts in 8 games.

This is the reason people said Eichel had a higher offensive ceiling and used the linemate argument for Jack, it was never an excuse. It’s reality I kne if he ever got a sniper or just a great player on his line he’d be putting up Incredible numbers. It could fall back but for now it great.

 

[Scrantonicity 2]

Edmonton has the easiest schedule in the league this year. Combine that with the amount of ice-time McDavid gets and I would assume he's pretty much a lock for the Hart.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

Most valuable player to his team? Pettersson has looked like the only valuable player on the Canucks for most of the year.

Nah.

Horvats been a beast and Boeser we all saw what he did last year and again this year. Pettersen has been amazing he’s helped and he will win the Calder and maybe in the future Hart art Riss or rocket trophies but for Hart this year I don’t see it right now. But I’ve also seen nothing to suggest he can’t donit either. He’s dynamite.

I just think if mcdavid and oilers make playoffs, mCd gets it, not making the playoffs should be the only way he doesent if he keeps leading the league in scoring.

Edmonton has the easiest schedule in the league this year. Combine that with the amount of ice-time McDavid gets and I would assume he's pretty much a lock for the Hart.

Or it could be that mcdavids the best player in earth and not just an easy schedule or ice time.

Some People.

 

[Scrantonicity 2]

Or it could be that mcdavids the best player in earth and not just an easy schedule or ice time.

Some People.

What are you rambling about now? All I said was that the schedule and ice-time will likely cement what was already a good chance for him to win it.

 

[Tage2Tuch]

What are you rambling about now? All I said was that the schedule and ice-time will likely cement what was already a good chance for him to win it.

Rambling about? Pretty clear what I said.

You made it sound like those were the reasons he would win it and not the fact that he’s Connor McDavid.

But what do you mean by easy schedule anyway?

 

[Skolman]

He 100% is the main problem, no if's and or buts. Which idiot would keep going to the same 5 man left shooting #1 pp unit when it clearly isn't working.....Tmac that's who.

Nah, Chia Is a bigger problem.

 

[Plural]

McDavid and Geno are my top 2. Aho is basically Carolina offense so he's my dark horse.

 

[Scrantonicity 2]

But what do you mean by easy schedule anyway?

The Oilers play 18 times against teams who are on the second half of back-to-backs this season, which is by far the highest in the league. Most teams play under 10. For example, Colorado and Vancouver only play 3 teams on a back-to-back.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Pettersson probably won't win but he should get consideration.