Dreger: Dumba & Brodin asking price is No.1 Center

BlackBusa24

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The Wild don't need to bottom out. They have a solid defensive core and good wingers (which should be improved with Kaprizov coming over). They also have a solid group of prospects.

The strategy of "blowing up" a roster is no guarantee to get better. For every Pittsburgh or Chicago success story, you have an Edmonton, Buffalo and New Jersey.

Or Toronto... Well at least until they do something in the playoffs
 

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our fans are just barely tolerating mediocrity at the moment. i can't imagine the ownership would be thrilled with the massive hit to revenue that would come with a "blow it up to get better" cycle of 5-6 years. especially with payroll being what it is.
 

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Just to be clear. Dreger has an extensive history of driving up the market for a side in exchange for the ability to “break the story”.

He works for Darren Ferris to try to increase the market in salary. “Marner is getting an offer sheet.... etc”

Dreger suggesting the wild will get a no 1 c for Brodin is dumb. Mackenzie said it would be a like a“muzzin package” on tsn 1050.
 

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Just to be clear. Dreger has an extensive history of driving up the market for a side in exchange for the ability to “break the story”.

He works for Darren Ferris to try to increase the market in salary. “Marner is getting an offer sheet.... etc”

Dreger suggesting the wild will get a no 1 c for Brodin is dumb. Mackenzie said it would be a like a“muzzin package” on tsn 1050.
Guerin has implied he would want a top center in return, but he also said he's not shopping them, that's what he's telling those who are asking what his price is.

Big difference in value when you are actively trying to trade someone vs others trying to entice you to trade someone.
 
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a lot of bitter people on here, you cant have dumba or brodin for anything but very good centers. mn does not need wingers and dmen, infact they have to many of both. mn has no problem keeping both as they could play top pair on 20+ teams in the nhl. if Detroit was further along in the rebuild and brodin was signed longer I would offer aa and veleno +. brodin would be perfect to help out detroits top notch young rd learn the ropes and cover up for there mistakes.
 

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Dreger suggesting the wild will get a no 1 c for Brodin is dumb. Mackenzie said it would be a like a“muzzin package” on tsn 1050.

See the word like, which means that Brodin may get a bit higher; Muzzin got a 1st, the Leafs 4th best prospect, and a pretty good player in Sean Durzi. So, if the Wild were to get a Muzzin package from the Hurricanes it'd be probably Suzuki + 1st and Mattheos

Edit: Didn't know Mattheos was out due to injury. Maybe Geekie or Luostarinen?
 
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Just to be clear. Dreger has an extensive history of driving up the market for a side in exchange for the ability to “break the story”.

He works for Darren Ferris to try to increase the market in salary. “Marner is getting an offer sheet.... etc”

Dreger suggesting the wild will get a no 1 c for Brodin is dumb. Mackenzie said it would be a like a“muzzin package” on tsn 1050.
Dreger does need to be taken with a grain of salt. It's probably better to take Friedman's wording of essentially the same information and just ignore everything after the first comma.
I don’t get the sense he’s inclined to do anything with either, unless it involves an elite centre, or maybe a No. 2 centre, providing that includes something extra — like a couple of first-rounders or something along those lines.

There. Short thread.
 

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Dreger does need to be taken with a grain of salt. It's probably better to take Friedman's wording of essentially the same information and just ignore everything after the first comma.


There. Short thread.

Didn't Russo and someone else (LeBrun? McKenzie? Too many insiders to keep track of) report more or less that he very well could get traded? Seemed to imply the asking price isn't quite as high as Dreger and Friedman make it sound...
 

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Didn't Russo and someone else (LeBrun? McKenzie? Too many insiders to keep track of) report more or less that he very well could get traded? Seemed to imply the asking price isn't quite as high as Dreger and Friedman make it sound...
Not that I know of.

LeBrun's article this morning touched on the Canes' interest in Dumba and said the following:
The Wild just got multiple assets for winger Jason Zucker and would look to do even better in a Dumba deal. But the Canes do have the first-round pick in play, plus players/prospects that I think the Wild have interest in.

Russo's mostly just reported that teams have been asking on them. There've been some podcasts where he says what he thinks Guerin should be looking for, but it's never sounded like an actual rumor. He's never sounded convinced that it's all that likely, at least not before the deadline.

McKenzie's mostly just fielded questions from Toronto fans/media about what it'd cost for the Leafs to get Dumba. I don't think his answers have had much to do with what Minnesota would actually want, just what he thinks a top-4 defenseman of about that age would cost.

It really just seems like a handful of teams came out of their January scouting meetings hoping that these two would be a lot more available than they actually are.
 

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Honestly though,

If Weber's career is truly in question. Would a Domi for Brodin deal work?

Say

Domi

For

Brodin
Conditional 2nd (Goes away if Brodin extends with the Habs.)

He's not your bonafide 1C, but he's a 60-70 pts guy who can drive a line offensively.
Might be a good 'patch' until whoever they draft this year in the top 10 develops into a 1C.
 

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Honestly though,

If Weber's career is truly in question. Would a Domi for Brodin deal work?

Say

Domi

For

Brodin
Conditional 2nd (Goes away if Brodin extends with the Habs.)

He's not your bonafide 1C, but he's a 60-70 pts guy who can drive a line offensively.
Might be a good 'patch' until whoever they draft this year in the top 10 develops into a 1C.

I'd do that
 
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Honestly though,

If Weber's career is truly in question. Would a Domi for Brodin deal work?

Say

Domi

For

Brodin
Conditional 2nd (Goes away if Brodin extends with the Habs.)

He's not your bonafide 1C, but he's a 60-70 pts guy who can drive a line offensively.
Might be a good 'patch' until whoever they draft this year in the top 10 develops into a 1C.
60-70 point guy on pace for 51 points per 82?
 

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Honestly though,

If Weber's career is truly in question. Would a Domi for Brodin deal work?

Say

Domi

For

Brodin
Conditional 2nd (Goes away if Brodin extends with the Habs.)

He's not your bonafide 1C, but he's a 60-70 pts guy who can drive a line offensively.
Might be a good 'patch' until whoever they draft this year in the top 10 develops into a 1C.
Might for Dumba but Brodin has no offense.
 

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To all the ignorant people in this thread, the Wild would be foolish to ask for anything else. They don’t need wingers or defense of any kind - they are set for both the short and longterm at both position. All they need are young Cs and a goalie.

Wings: Fiala, Parise, Kaprizov, Zuccarello, Greenway, Boldy, Donato, Kunin, Galchenyuk. That is a solid group now and into the future.

Obviously if we are trading good young D, we would do it to fill the one glaring organizational need. We aren’t trading good young D just to help your teams crappy blueline. Sorry to disappoint but Kapanen/Tatar/etc do absolutely nothing except illustrate the ignorance of the person proposing the trade. Guerin isn’t an idiot. HF is just full of opportunistic homers who think their 3rd line RW is the next Jari Kurri and deserves a King’s ransom in return. Young D like Dumba and Brodin always bring back value. They are worth more than many here want to admit.
 
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