Dreger: Duchene Mega-thread: Habs, NSH inquired about Duchene. Asking price is ridiculous.

[Nalens Oga]

Yeah I'd say Duchene's a bit better than Johansen and it's a shame Nashville already traded Jones to Columbus because that would've been perfect.

Still with that said, I think that the Avs could use a depth trade more than a one for one so a Duchene for Fabbro + Fiala/Girard + 1st could go a long way in helping them replenish their team but I haven't followed Fabbro's development after the summer to know if it's worth it with him as a centre piece.

 

[HabsFan1994]

Duchene would be 1C on both teams.

Oh, you think? I'd say Nashville should keep Johansen and his big body as first C, and put the smaller Duchene on second C. You think Laviolette would separate Forberg-Johansen-Neal?

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

You think Laviolette would separate Forberg-Johansen-Neal?

Yes because they're separated right now.

 

[Jonesey]

Oh, you think? I'd say Nashville should keep Johansen and his big body as first C, and put the smaller Duchene on second C. You think Laviolette would separate Forberg-Johansen-Neal?

Well considering Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson is our "#1" line, yes.

Duchene would be able to play with Wilson and Neal as our "#2" line.

 

[Gh24]

I think Pete Laviolette would leave Johansen on the first line and put Duchene on the second line. He'd have Austin Watson and Craig Smith for wingers (They're the 2nd line wingers as of February 4th, 2017, aka today).

On the other hand, he'd be 1st line center in Montreal, with Max Pacioretty and the power house that is Alexander Radulov. Tell me how he'd produce more in Country City than in Habs Land

Most likely top6 would be something like:

Forsberg - Johansen - Arvidsson
x - Duchene - Neal

Mix and match, but he'd play with 1 or 2 of Forsberg, Neal and Arvidsson

X is one of Fiala, Wilson or Jarnkrok, maybe Smith, but definitely not Watson.
Yes I'm aware of how the lineups are constructed atm, but whatever they call it, in a traditional top6 thinking they're 3rd line

 

[HabsFan1994]

Yes because they're separated right now.

Yes, my bad, I meant Arvidsson...

*How to look like a moron, **** me*

 

[HabsFan1994]

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That's what I followed for the line, 'cause I don't follow the Preds enough to know their correct line, forgive me if they're not the right ones.

Forsberg-Johansen-Arvidsson
X-Duchene-Neal would make sense.

That'd be a nice top-6 for you guys

EDIT: Pic didn't work, but it's Forsberg-RyJo-Arvidsson as first line and Watson-Fisher-Smith for the second.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Just proves that you know nothing about the Avs.

The guys at the top are not the problem. .

It's not Martinensen's fault that Landeskog is averaging a pathetic 2.02 pts per 60 on the PP. It's not Wiercioch's fault that Landeskog's individual corsi number sucks. In fact the epically worthless mess you are complaining about are all outperforming Landeskog when it comes to creating shots directed at the net. Bourque, Comeau, Martinsen.... all are getting the pucks at the net more. Now of course he's a better player than they are, and of course there are other things going on. He's a good player. But you are wrong when you say that there is nothing wrong with your core. There is, and that's why you are looking to deal them.

Funny that you bring up EJ. Avs go from below average - bad to epically bad right after he gets injured but apparantely he still sucks according to you.
.

Actually I never said he sucks. He's good. He's not good enough to be a #1 on a contending team. There's a wide gap between elite and sucks.

But yeah. Not the first time I am shaking my head when it comes to you commenting on the Avalanche....

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your posts.

 

[Perratrooper]

I think if I'm Colorado trading Duchene to Ottawa looks the best to me. The trade for me would be:

To Col
Ceci
Brown
1st 2017

To Sens
Duchene
2nd 2017 (To entice the Brown part)

and if we make that trade then trade Barrie

To Col
K. Hayes
Skeji
2nd 2017
or
Miller

To NYR
Barrie

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Has Eklund ever been right about a rumor he stated?

yes he has but its rare

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

I think if I'm Colorado trading Duchene to Ottawa looks the best to me. The trade for me would be:

To Col
Ceci
Brown
1st 2017

To Sens
Duchene
2nd 2017 (To entice the Brown part)

and if we make that trade then trade Barrie

To Col
K. Hayes
Skeji
2nd 2017
or
Miller

To NYR
Barrie

first awful for colorado

second looks bad for ny

 

[Super Cake]

1st + Brown + Chabot.

There Avs fans, i included Chabot.

 

[PsychoticHab]

Has Eklund ever been right about a rumor he stated?

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. (Just don't bet on it)

 

[euhchepas]

I think Pete Laviolette would leave Johansen on the first line and put Duchene on the second line. He'd have Austin Watson and Craig Smith for wingers (They're the 2nd line wingers as of February 4th, 2017, aka today).

On the other hand, he'd be 1st line center in Montreal, with Max Pacioretty and the power house that is Alexander Radulov. Tell me how he'd produce more in Country City than in Habs Land

Duchene is a 60 points center
Galchenyuk has been producing at a 70+ points pace since last january (or you know the moment he became a center)

Duchene is NOT taking his spot

(the only reason galchenyuk isn't on the 1st line now is that he's still not at 100% since returning from injury)

 

[maplepred]

Does duchene want to be a number two centre behind ryjo though?

 

[Avsblitzkrieg]

1st + Brown + Chabot.

There Avs fans, i included Chabot.

sold! Shut this thing down boys.

 

[Avs44]

Does duchene want to be a number two centre behind ryjo though?

He's never struck me as someone who has a major ego or would ever have a problem with that. For the last two years here he's generally gotten the short end of the stick on linemates with the best going to MacKinnon.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Does duchene want to be a number two centre behind ryjo though?

He would get plenty of ice time in general as well as PP time. He'd be fine with it.

 

[falconski]

1st + Brown + Chabot.

There Avs fans, i included Chabot.

Done (I'd prefer white to brown but that's nothing that would change a yes/no)

 

[Paper]

To Calgary: Duchene, Zadorov

To Colorado: Brodie, Bennett

Av's get their defenseman who can play both sides on one of the best contracts (and one year longer than Duchene) in the league and a struggling young center with huge potential to possibly replace Duchene down the line.

Flames get a player who can keep up with Gaudreau, that could make a fantastic first line with Gaudreau and Monahan or anchor his own line if spreading out the scoring. Get a big nasty young defenseman to try to help the huge defensive depth they take by losing Brodie.

 

[Bender]

To Calgary: Duchene, Zadorov

To Colorado: Brodie, Bennett

Av's get their defenseman who can play both sides on one of the best contracts (and one year longer than Duchene) in the league and a struggling young center with huge potential to possibly replace Duchene down the line.

Flames get a player who can keep up with Gaudreau, that could make a fantastic first line with Gaudreau and Monahan or anchor his own line if spreading out the scoring. Get a big nasty young defenseman to try to help the huge defensive depth they take by losing Brodie.

Pass and this is from someone who LOVES Bennett. We're not trading Zadorov.

 

[falconski]

To Calgary: Duchene, Zadorov

To Colorado: Brodie, Bennett

Av's get their defenseman who can play both sides on one of the best contracts (and one year longer than Duchene) in the league and a struggling young center with huge potential to possibly replace Duchene down the line.

Flames get a player who can keep up with Gaudreau, that could make a fantastic first line with Gaudreau and Monahan or anchor his own line if spreading out the scoring. Get a big nasty young defenseman to try to help the huge defensive depth they take by losing Brodie.

You lost me at zadorov

Duchene+ for Brodie and Bennett is doable, but the + isn't zadorov (other avs fans would hate me but I'd do bigras there if it's a quality d prospect you want, or mironov if it's just for the hits)

 

[Leafs87]

Does duchene want to be a number two centre behind ryjo though?

He's defiantly missing some things that will always keep him from being an elite 1c Imo

 

[Bender]

That's so awesome. He's so good he's just on a bad team. And Ej is so good, but he's just on a bad team. And Rantanen is so good, but he's just on a bad team. And Landeskog is so good, but he's just on a bad team. And Barrie is so good, he's just on a bad team. And MacKinnon is so good, but he's just on a bad team.

There's a disconnect here that I'm sure you'll find if you think hard enough about it.

What is your point? That Avs players suck?? It's a wonder why fans of all these teams are frikkin' LININ' UP to make sure their teams get them. Strange how that goes.

As far as your post on Landeskog, if you DID follow the team instead of boxscore watch, you'd know that he had a bad start (I guess that means that Patrice Bergeron and Anze Kopitar suck donkey ass too???) then he got injured. He's got 9 points in his last 16 games player which isn't half bad when you figure that the Avs lost 14 of those games and only scored 26 goals for as a team during that span.

You know, when teams get a performance like the Avs got today, out of their supporting cast where Iginla puts one in and Soderberg does as well, it takes a bit of the pressure off of the top guys. We haven't had that on most nights this year...but I guess that's really relevant, right???

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[Paper]

You lost me at zadorov

Duchene+ for Brodie and Bennett is doable, but the + isn't zadorov (other avs fans would hate me but I'd do bigras there if it's a quality d prospect you want, or mironov if it's just for the hits)

Of course Brodie and Bennett is doable for Duchene. Duchene alone wouldn't get Brodie....