Confirmed with Link: Duchene (and Bergman) to CBJ for Abramov, Davidsson, 1st(top 3 prot), and cond. 1st(on re-sign)

[Oilers in NS]

You have the money to start digging yourselves out once Katz stops being in love with idiots like Lowe and Nicholson at least. That and you jave McJesus!

But yeah. We both suck right now.

We have to get rid of Lowe and Nicholson for sure

 

[Daffy]

Stanley Cup Champions

• 2018: Washington Capitals, Coach Barry Trotz
• 2017: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
• 2016: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
• 2015: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2014: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter
• 2013: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2012: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter
• 2011: Boston Bruins, Coach Claude Julien
• 2010: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2009: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Dan Bylsma
• 2008: Detroit Red Wings, Coach Mike Babcock

All mostly built through the draft.

The draft? You mean homegrown guys like Stone and Dzingel?

 

[Grizwald]

Count me against the crowd, as usual.

What crowd? You're not talking about the crowd at the games because it would be an easy count. : )

 

[BonkTastic]

The draft? You mean homegrown guys like Stone and Dzingel?

And Karlsson, Hoffman, Pageau, White, Chabot, etc...

We build through the draft more than any other team in the league. I'm not sure what his point was.

 

[Micklebot]

Stanley Cup Champions

• 2018: Washington Capitals, Coach Barry Trotz
• 2017: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
• 2016: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Mike Sullivan
• 2015: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2014: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter
• 2013: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2012: Los Angeles Kings, Coach Darryl Sutter
• 2011: Boston Bruins, Coach Claude Julien
• 2010: Chicago Blackhawks, Coach Joel Quenneville
• 2009: Pittsburgh Penguins, Coach Dan Bylsma
• 2008: Detroit Red Wings, Coach Mike Babcock

All mostly built through the draft.

Washington: Ovechkin 1st OA, Backstrom 4th OA,
Pens: Crosby 1st OA, Malkin 2nd OA,
Chicago: Kane 1st OA, Toews 3rd OA
LA: Doughty 2nd OA, Kopitar 11th (traded Schenn 5th, and Simmonds for Richards)

Those teams were built by bottoming out and picking high when elite talent came up.

It's easy to say great teams are built through the draft, but in order for us to follow the model that got those 4 teams their cups, we'll need to tank and pick top 3 another couple times which is easier said than in the past thanks to the draft lottery.

No doubt, drafting is very important, but right now, we're going though all the pain those teams did but we won't get the benefit of a Kane/Crosby/Malkin/Doughty/Ovechkin out of it.

 

[Zorf]

I don't want to read all these pages, so what does Ottawa get if the CBJ 2019 goes top 3?

Is there conditional compenstation ?

 

[Daffy]

I don't want to read all these pages, so what does Ottawa get if the CBJ 2019 goes top 3?

Is there conditional compenstation ?

Then we get their 2020 1st

 

[Zorf]

Then we get their 2020 1st

But what if CBJ signs Duchene too? Sens just pooched out of a pick?

 

[Daffy]

But what if CBJ signs Duchene too? Sens just pooched out of a pick?

No then we'd end up with the 2020 and 2021 firsts.

 

[Micklebot]

Watch us trade Stone for a conditional first too, and then the team that we trade him to signs Duchene in the offseason, and Clb signs Stone...

 

[HSF]

But what if CBJ signs Duchene too? Sens just pooched out of a pick?

2020 1st and 2021 1st

 

[danielpalfredsson]

If we finish last next season, and all our conditional picks transfer, we could end up with five picks in the top 32 of the 2020 draft.

 

[LeProspector]

I’m okay with the trade if he resigns. I would have expected Foudy as a part of the return but the Players Dorian got have higher offensive upsides. I mean one of the players he gets from these trades has to pan out.... right?
Lost in this is that if he resigns we’ll have 3 first round picks for next year and that’s not including the Stone trade. Next years draft IMO is the deepest since 2015 so it’s a good year to be getting picks.
Although the trade that brought Duchene to Ottawa was horrendously bad. We need to move on from it now that he’s out of Ottawa. I mean we actually acquired a Russian. Things are changing lmao

 

[Alex1234]

Mark Stone ++ for Mat Tkatchuk
Since we play CGY?

And Brady is friend with his bro

PD type of trade

 

[NorthCoast]

I suppose worry about that when we get there or closer to it. Some players will want to sign until the ufa years like Matthews.

And there’s your plan folks.

Meanwhile we keep getting disappointed by the results of waiting until the last minute to figure things out.

Have you ever read the definition of insanity by chance?

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

If we finish last next season, and all our conditional picks transfer, we could end up with five picks in the top 32 of the 2020 draft.

That would mean 5 more opportunities to not pay our players when it's time

 

[HF Reader]

Thank god he's not a Leafs fan.

Give him time.

 

[HF Reader]

The key part that you’re missing is that they DRAFTED THOSE PLAYERS WITH THEIR LOTTERY FIRST ROUNDERS INSTEAD OF TRADING THEM AWAY

And paid them.

 

[SensFactor]

October 2018 – Abramov has been assigned to the AHL’s Cleveland Monsters to start the 2018-2019 season. He underwent wrist surgery in May which prevented him for participating in the Traverse City prospects tournament. Abramov will be healthy to start his AHL campaign and is going to continue dazzling hockey fans with his speed, creativity, wicked release and fearlessness to drive the net. While not yet NHL ready, do not be surprised if he is called up by the Blue Jackets later this year. With star level upside, expect Abramov to debut in the NHL as a full-time top-six winger in 2019-2020. Frank Pellegrini

 

[SensFactor]

November 2018 – Davidsson has been loaned to Djurgardens IF of the SHL to start the 2018-2019 season. Through seven games, he has registered five points. He is a strong skater with a quick first step, very good acceleration and above average top end speed even while playmaking. He needs to get stronger, improve his balance, and his defensive game and positioning if he wants to play in the NHL . He signed an entry level contract with the Blue Jackets this past May so he is expected to help the big club soon. Expect a year of improvement in the SHL before coming to North America in 2019-2020 where he will compete for a middle-six role. Frank Pellegrini

 

[God Flower]

Hey, I'm not too sure if this has been addressed in the past 34 pages, but I've read mixed reports on Abramov's skating and a few people in here have described as a weakness. I have had literally ZERO viewings of him to date, so any info is appreciated. Can anyone confirm if it's a strength or weakness?

Strength:

TSP: Top Columbus Blue Jackets Prospects - Last Word on Hockey

Vitali Abramov

The Draft Analyst | Draft Profile: Vitalii Abramov

https://thehockeywriters.com/vitali-abramov-the-next-ones-nhl-2016-draft-prospect-profile/

2016 NHL Draft prospect profile: Vitali Abramov is an offensive juggernaut in a small package

Thanks!

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

What does qdp mean as far a deleting posts go?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

What does qdp mean as far a deleting posts go?

Casualty of war.

Some quote you responded to got deleted by a MOD and your's was a casualty of the drone strike in a populated area.

 

[R2010]

It would be like trading a 1st, Balcers and Formenton for Duchene.

The thing I find most interesting about it is whether we want them to go on a run or not. If they do then Duchene could possibly resign - if they don’t he might not. So would we rather 15th overall in 2019 or say 26th overall and possibly a chance at that 2020 1st?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

It would be like trading a 1st, Balcers and Formenton for Duchene.

The thing I find most interesting about it is whether we want them to go on a run or not. If they do then Duchene could possibly resign - if they don’t he might not. So would we rather 15th overall in 2019 or say 26th overall and possibly a chance at that 2020 1st?

unfortunately I think its a little worse than that; but close enough I guess.