Dubas puts to bed the "Leafs players aren't happy about Tavares"

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  1. Kamiccolo

    Kamiccolo Proud Leafs and Hurricanes fan

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    This whole offseason this has been very common to read in the many Leaf threads that have come up. The argument has been a two part one.

    A) That going out and getting Tavares was a dick move for the players (Like Auston) and a slap in the face and he won't be happy to lose "his team"

    B) They will point to Tavares and say "You went outside the organization and paid this guy, I want you to pay me like that".

    Auston had an interview where he said that he was happy he came and put these rumors to be, however a recent interview from the Athletic with the Leafs GM Dubas he goes into detail about these decisions and talks about how they can fit all these kids

    The entire interview is a good read and can be read here

    One-on-one with Leafs GM Kyle Dubas: On Babcock, offer...
     
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    Not sure that Nylander is a fan of it...

    Leafs are in tough position. Whatever they give Nylander, Marner will ask for a couple of mil more... and Matthews vice versa to Marner.
     
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    So the GM who went out and got Tavares says that everyone was supportive of the move?
     
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    Exactly. In this interview he claims he went and talked to the players first, asked them how they felt about it, and told them that they would all have to make it work salary wise, and all of them said they were supportive of it and would work together.

    Assuming he is being honest here, this interview puts to rest a lot of speculation that has been happening this offseason.
     
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    I've never heard a GM admit that his own players didn't like a particular move.

    Anyway, it's a huge add for the present. What it means for the future remains to be seen.

    If there weren't any consequences to the team structure at all, Nylander would already be signed.
     
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    Well we know Matthews doesn't mind. By admission of both he and Tavares, Matthews reached out during the recruiting process asking Tavares to sign with Toronto. Neither player has much reason to lie about something like that.

    Marner probably doesn't mind. Being a Leafs fan his whole life, I would speculate that he was hoping Tavares would be a Leaf long before it ever came to fruition.

    Kadri would certainly welcome the move. He and Tavares have been chummy since juniors, and Kadri knows his role won't change much from what it was last season.

    Nylander? You could speculate that he might be grumpy about it, and I think that's reasonable, but no one knows for sure. Not a lot of talk has come out regarding his reasons for the hold-out.
     
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    Phew, I can breathe easy now.

    Definitely a relief that everything is ok in Leafland.
     
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    Should be on the leafs board.
     
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    I'm guessing this is how the players see it:
    Tavares = $12million
    AM = $12million
    MM = $10million
    WN = $8million

    This is how management sees it:
    Tavares = $12million
    AM = $10.5million
    MM = $7.5million
    WN = $6.5million



    Problem is, AM likely wants to be the highest paid on the team, deservedly so. Which messes up the others.
     
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    Which is why Dubas won't cave in and is willing to hold out. Nylander sets the precedent for the other two.
     
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    Of course we can speculate on all of this until it happens. The Nylander deal will give everyone a better idea of where they will slot I think. However the takeaway is still that they made sure

    A) Everyone was ok sharing the spotlight

    B) Everyone knew that if they got him, everyone would have to take a little less to keep the team together.
     
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    Not sure he had this conversation with JT!! He did the team no favors at all signing that contract.

    Or did you mean that the current Leaf players would have to take a pay cut to allow the signing of JT's over priced contract?
     
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    Why do you have Tavares priced higher then his contract? Tavares makes 11 million.
     
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    well ofcourse he will say that even if players were pissed... nobody will ever know the truth.

    IMO obviously some players hated the idea cause all of a sudden 11 mill is tied up per year so that is potentially less money they will get

    But who really cares... every team goes thru this that are contenders and go get big named UFAs
     
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    This is on the mains because...?
     
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    ...we need to hit the daily Leaf quota of 5 new threads per day
     
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    Chaos in the leafs locker room already. I love it. Thats what happens when you bring in a cancer.
     
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    JT declined 13M AAV from the Sharks, meaning he chose to take 2M less per season coming to the Leafs. Saying he milked the team is incorrect, as he took below market value.
     
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    After reading this, its a breath of fresh air that everyone from players, coach, managment is on the same page. I just hope our fellow Canadian teams follow suit.

    Strong leadership determines success in an organization.

    I just hope Montreal and Ottawa have a complete overhaul in their leadership group.
     
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    So we are allowed to post unsubstantiated comments and there is no issue, however posting a reply from the GM to these speculations is not ok?

    Feel free to use the ignore thread feature.
     
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    Strong leadership still doesn't have contracts for Nylander, Marner or Matthews. Lets wait and see what those deals look like first.
     
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    Don't need Leaf fans to help with that one.
     
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    Not sure what this is all about.

    On every other team in the league, players are happy when the team is improved.

    I guess the idiots have to make up Leafs drama.
     
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    Why does JT have an extra million?
     
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    Right on.

    Not all that enlightening.
    I highly doubt even one player is upset they acquired a high end player.

    I could see them leveraging his contract for their own purposes but that was to be expected.

    Matthews wasn't going to demand a trade!
     
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