Oilers desperately need a skilled winger to play with McDavid, they could draft one with that pick but outside Kakko, who will be gone at 2, Oilers could have to wait another 2 years before that kid is ready to play with the big team, Is McDavid willing to waste another 2-3 yrs of his carreer or it would be smarter for the Oilers to add one who is close to reach his prime? I think its a win win trade for both teams...
You want the 4th or 5th pick for Drouin and won't take back Lucic.
Easy no.
As soon as I saw thread I knew it would be started by a Montreal fan asking for our 1st round pick.
Easy pass.
from what I remember, they were high on him but they saw the lack of motivation and effort so they went with Dubois..
Edmonton get: Drouin, Fonstad, Lindgren\McNivens
Montreal get: 1st overall + a cap dump like Benning
The Oilers have the 3rd highest chance of 1st overall right now. Drouin is not worth a top 5 pick, this is pretty obvious to any other fan base. If we wanted to move the pick we could do better than that.There is no way in hell that Montreal trades Drouin for a 1st round pick. What the heck am i reading here ? As if in a real word Edmonton would refuse this.
The Oilers have the 3rd highest chance of 1st overall right now. Drouin is not worth a top 5 pick, this is pretty obvious to any other fan base. If we wanted to move the pick we could do better than that.
lolzDrouin might be worth a mid first round pick if he didn't earn 5.5m. He's last 1st round or early 2nd round value
I'd do Nurse and Benning for Drouin
The goal would be to draft someone better than Drouin or someone that fills a bigger need.So trading a 1st line forward with potential for a pick who hopes to end up like Drouin is now? Yeah... Don't see the incentive outside of age. Let's not act like top 5 picks are locks to be superstars. Drouin is a perfect example. He's signed to a good deal. Why move him for a hope and a prayer, especially when they need all the help they can get right now? So yeah... Straight up is bad. Adding makes it worse. Taking a cap dump make it laughably bad.
Well sure, that would obviously be the goal. I think people often mistakenly assume top 5 picks are locks to be superstars, and ignore the numerous cases where that doesn't happen. I can understand the "needs" argument, but if you're drafting for a need, you're setting yourself back now without any guarantee that the player you draft will end up any better. Maybe you get a Kotkaniemi (jury still out, but he looks good), maybe you get a Zacha.The goal would be to draft someone better than Drouin or someone that fills a bigger need.
I’m not that big of a fan of him, maybe that’s why.
Our team is so short of cap space that we had to go through contortions just to get freakin Sekera back on the roster. The mess Special Pete left us in is gonna take at least a few years to sort out. We are paper thin everywhere and trading for an expensive winger now will certainly just rip open another hole and/or will be unaffordable from a cap hit point of view. The Oilers have no choice but to shed dead weight, and bring on talented ELC players that you can only get one way: by keeping their 1st rd draft pick.
Montreal should definitely consider moving Drouin and using that dead cap space if it guarantees them a guy like Cozens being drafted.
Danault 6'1
Kotkaniemi 6'2
Cozens 6'3
Poehling 6'2
That would be lethal.
I would rework the trade though:
Edmonton:
Drouin, Jonathan
Fonstad, Cole (5th rd 2018 pick, was supposed to go early 3rd, has improved his draft position significantly since.)
Lindgren, Charlie
2019 1st rd pick (17-23 range)
2019 Oilers 5th rd pick
Montreal:
Russell, Kris 4M AAV
Manning, Brandon 2.25M AAV
Benning, Matthew 1.9M AAV
2019 Oilers 1st rd pick (3-4th OA)
2019 Oilers 2nd rd pick (32-35th OA)
Oilers effectively move out 2.65M AAV in salaries. They still have a pick in the 1st round, just that they drop a 15ish spots to Yamamoto territory.
So to move up maybe 10 -12 spots in draft at best and upgrade current oilers 5th round that they have to a 2nd round pick, Habs give up a cost controlled 60 pt offensive winger, 2 prospects, and take on 3 overpaid 3rd pair d-men that Oilers canèt give away.
I think MB passes on this easily
There is a clutter of wingers right now in Montreal. Also have to remember that once Poehling comes in and a guy like Cozens, you have Domi moving back to LW.
You also have to account for Suzuki coming in on the right side, and several other prospects drafted in the past 2 years that will be pushing for a top 9 W spot (Ylonen, Ikonen, McShane, Teasdale, etc.)
Domi - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Kotkaniemi - Suzuki
Lehkonen - Cozens - Armia
Byron - Poehling - Shaw
Deslauriers/Peca/Hudon/Weise
As such, Drouin is definitely expandable since Suzuki will play a similar game to his.
4th OA (Cozens) + 33OA (Another guy in the mold of Romanov and Ylonen) for Drouin, a middle 1st, cap space for 2 years (that wouldn't be used anyway), and Lindgren + Fonstad?
That not only helps Edmonton replenish their prospect pool without sacrificing next year entirely as they still get to pick in the 1st round, it also reduces their cap hell with little to no effect on Montreal's cap situation.
There is a clutter of wingers right now in Montreal. Also have to remember that once Poehling comes in and a guy like Cozens, you have Domi moving back to LW.
You also have to account for Suzuki coming in on the right side, and several other prospects drafted in the past 2 years that will be pushing for a top 9 W spot (Ylonen, Ikonen, McShane, Teasdale, etc.)
Domi - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Kotkaniemi - Suzuki
Lehkonen - Cozens - Armia
Byron - Poehling - Shaw
Deslauriers/Peca/Hudon/Weise
As such, Drouin is definitely expandable since Suzuki will play a similar game to his.
4th OA (Cozens) + 33OA (Another guy in the mold of Romanov and Ylonen) for Drouin, a middle 1st, cap space for 2 years (that wouldn't be used anyway), and Lindgren + Fonstad?
That not only helps Edmonton replenish their prospect pool without sacrificing next year entirely as they still get to pick in the 1st round, it also reduces their cap hell with little to no effect on Montreal's cap situation.
There is no way Edm get Drouin just to move up 10-12 spots in a deep draft like this one when one of Leason Pelletier Lavoie Robertson will likely drop at our spot...There is a clutter of wingers right now in Montreal. Also have to remember that once Poehling comes in and a guy like Cozens, you have Domi moving back to LW.
You also have to account for Suzuki coming in on the right side, and several other prospects drafted in the past 2 years that will be pushing for a top 9 W spot (Ylonen, Ikonen, McShane, Teasdale, etc.)
Domi - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Kotkaniemi - Suzuki
Lehkonen - Cozens - Armia
Byron - Poehling - Shaw
Deslauriers/Peca/Hudon/Weise
As such, Drouin is definitely expandable since Suzuki will play a similar game to his.
4th OA (Cozens) + 33OA (Another guy in the mold of Romanov and Ylonen) for Drouin, a middle 1st, cap space for 2 years (that wouldn't be used anyway), and Lindgren + Fonstad?
That not only helps Edmonton replenish their prospect pool without sacrificing next year entirely as they still get to pick in the 1st round, it also reduces their cap hell with little to no effect on Montreal's cap situation.