Discussion in 'Polls - (hockey-related only)' started by Caesar Rex, Sep 25, 2018.
When all is said and done. Who will be considered the better player?
having already 2 Cups and a Norris vs 1 Cup and 1 Norris, Ill say DD
Doughty because Chara is overrated
Chara should have had two to be fair and is historically one of the better shut down defensemen of all time.
Apples and oranges. One is a shut down specialists. The other, an elite two way defenseman.
Chara is most likely the best shut down defenseman of this generation with a longer prime. I mean for a ten year period, he was a Norris Finalists six times, finished top five eight times, a second team AS four times, a First team AS three times, with a Norris and Cup. He’s also probably one of the most intimidating players of all time, with his size and physicality. He was just plain scary.
But I think Doughty will go down as the better player simply based on his already impressive resume at a young age
And in his prime. He has the better offensive abilities and playoffs. He’s got the defensive game with the finesse.
Pretty even probably. Edge to Chara because I think he was a little more "transformitive" in what he can bring to a team.
What is that supposed to mean
Doughty's norris should have been Karlsson's
What a coincidence because EKs 2012 should have been Doughtys.
There is more to defense than scoring points. Doughty shows this while still scoring a good amount.
Yup. Swap the 2015 and 2016 Norrises and nobody has any issue with anything. As it is, Doughty beating out Karlsson's best season leaves a bad taste in many mouths.
Doughty should not have a Norris
He would have won this year if he hadn't won before so be careful what you wish for.
That would have been absolutely silly if he won it this year. Granted no dman stood out last year but Hedman had comparable possession to Doughty and better offense.
The voting was close enough to claim that the Due Doughty factor would have swung it.
Also Doughty's impact numbers at 5on5 were way better than Hedman's last year.
Hedman had 53% xGF% Doughty had 51%. Doughty did have better relative to team hence why I say comparable.
And then you look at their xGF% QoT:
And you realize it's not comparable at all. Hedman won for 2 reasons: 1) He had not won a Norris yet 2) He scored a bunch of goals
Went with Chara. Maybe it's just because I've seen him play a lot more (age and East). But that guy probably could impact a game more than anyone else I've seen.
It's a good poll question.
Doughty - but that’s because Bourque was my favourite growing up.
That said, I'll probably create a shrine dedicated to Chara for all that he's done for the Bruins.
Looking at their toi qot and the fact that Hedman lugged around Dotchin for most of the year I think that number is skewed.
Dead even IMO. Two of the best of our generation.
Good poll, this is Chara for me.
Doughty is the better all around guy. Chara's prime was Pronger level shut down, though.
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