News Article: Dreger - Teams preparing to offer sheet Leafs' Marner

[Walshy7]

Right. I’m assuming there is some validity in the post we read.

I swear I read someone write he is Michael Nylander on steroids, now huge grain of salt because not many have actual insider info on here. but even if partially true that's going to be a problem. Honestly even without an offersheet we shouldn't be paying marner more than $10M. $10M flat maybe but as you climb up and up it becomes a lot less palatable to have him

 

[PromisedLand]

Why not keep Mitch and let Matthews out.

Matthews>Marner

and more importantly is negotiating contract during the season to not hand cuff the leafs cap wise

 

[Nineteen67]

This is Dubas saying Dreger is a dumb ass

I think Dubas is talking to other GMs.

 

[ACC1224]

A - He doesn't want to leave, makes little sense for him to go over a small amount
B - With RFA's starting to get paid like UFA's, GM's aren't going to start using offer sheets that only gives more leverage to RFA's.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Click bait is all it is

 

[A1LeafNation]

Rival team GM: I want Leafs to panic and overpay their players so let me tell Dreger this we will do an offersheet. He is so dumb, he will believe me.

 

[Jozay]

Just sign panarin and take the picks lol

Leafs will be in a good situation regardless.

 

[Cor]

Take the first 4 rounders and use money to sign Karlsson or Panarin.


I’d be incredibly disappointed if Marner was the one to chase the money. He more than anyone should be willing to take a discount to help make everything fit

 

[4thline]

I can quite honestly see this being resolved by the draft. If we've got the other 3 RFA's locked up with a set Marner budget, their camp doesn't play ball, and their is legitimate offersheet risk (management will know) then we play the draft like Chia did with Kessel (yes I know the DD deal fell through), with the offersheet comp as a reserve bid.

Show the initiative, get the picks a draft sooner (or get roster players) and go into UFA with a clear picture of what we're dealing with.

 

[Bluelines]

This is clearly tampering. Leafs should start tampering too.

Use our money to destroy those small market teams.

Unfortunately its not.

Team do shady things all the time. Players have discussions on the ice with other players, they talk at those charity events in the summer, a friend of a friend has a casual conversation, agents and GM's use the media to "suggest" stories.

For example, Simmonds was at one time a great power forward, maybe top 5 in the league, now he is an old busted broken down shadow of his former self. Some how Dregger, LeBrun, Kypper, Friedman are all reporting that Simmonds is the "hot" player on the trade board, Boston and Toronto are the top two teams who need a power forward, the two teams met last year in the playoffs, who are fighting it out for home ice advantage and apparently it's going to take a kings ransom to land him. Geeze I wonder who planted that story to pit Toronto and Boston against each other....it is a trick as old as pro hockey.

GM's use the media, agents use the media, they plant " true stories" with people who have a wide media audience, like the Insiders on both networks, to gin up fans to pressure their GM's to make that deal.

If a busted broken Simmonds is the difference between us and the cup, I'm sure we can find something cheaper and younger on our farm, Marchment?

 

[BertCorbeau]

Amazing how many teams have that amount of cap space and the will to give up 4 first round picks all of a sudden.

 

[Nineteen67]

Matthews>Marner

Even if that were true I’d rather the Leafs keep Marner.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Also I’ve been a fan of Dregs for years and understand that he hasn’t been as good as he used to be for rumours, but IMO he’s officially jumped the shark with this one.

 

[PromisedLand]

Take the first 4 rounders and use money to sign Karlsson or Panarin.


I’d be incredibly disappointed if Marner was the one to chase the money. He more than anyone should be willing to take a discount to help make everything fit

I wonder c he gets all those commercials and sponsorship money he has already made if he wasn’t a leaf

 

[Bluelines]

Dude Boston sucks; Marner is not gonna make them super elite

Dude Boston has had a ridiculous rash of injuries and they one of the hottest goalies in the league. Any team that has Bergeron has a chance to win the cup. The guy is that good.

 

[SprDaVE]

Bring it on I guess?

 

[Budsfan]

Darren Dreger on Marner offer sheet, trade deadline and more

 

[Woodman19]

Typical media sensationalizing now that wewe g defense help. Always have to have something negative to drum up the fear and cynicism of the casual fan.

 

[Bluelines]

Matthews>Marner

and more importantly is negotiating contract during the season to not hand cuff the leafs cap wise

Statistically speaking, they are very close.

Player	From	To	Active	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	Per Game Goals	Per Game Assists	Per Game PTS	Per Game Shots	Point Shares OPS	Point Shares DPS	Point Shares PS	Adjusted Goals	Adjusted Assists	Adjusted PTS
Marner	2016	2019	3	208	61	131	192	16	0.29	0.63	0.92	2.44	16.5	4.1	20.6	77	162	239
Matthews	2016	2019	3	179	95	80	175	27	0.53	0.45	0.98	3.22	19.7	4.2	23.9	113	97	210

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[SprDaVE]

As I said in my thread (inspired by this topic on the main board), if we budget fair money (9+ million) and he tries to leverage us for more then let him go, take the picks, and spend that 9 million elsewhere. We'd still be in a great spot

Take the 4 1st round picks, turn around and sign Erik Karlsson.

 

[Nineteen67]

Take the first 4 rounders and use money to sign Karlsson or Panarin.


I’d be incredibly disappointed if Marner was the one to chase the money. He more than anyone should be willing to take a discount to help make everything fit

Name the guy not chasing the money? That is the number one priority.

 

[Hockey Crazy]

Shut it dreger. Besides... collect 4 1sts and toss 9 mil at panarin. Probably better off

 

[PromisedLand]

Statically speaking, they are very close

		Scoring		Per Game	Point Shares	Adjusted
Player	From	To	Active	GP	G	A	PTS	+/-	G	A	PTS	S	OPS	DPS	PS	G	A	PTS
Marner	2016	2019	3	208	61	131	192	16	0.29	0.63	0.92	2.44	16.5	4.1	20.6	77	162	239
Matthews	2016	2019	3	179	95	80	175	27	0.53	0.45	0.98	3.22	19.7	4.2	23.9	113	97	210

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Big center vs small winger

Future projection wise Matthews>Marner

Plus matthrws’ Prime will be a lot more impactful to his team than marner IMO

 

[I Believe]

I'll believe it when I see it.

I still say offer sheets are like the boogeyman. They're not attractive under this CBA and that's why we haven't seen any.

 

[ToneDog]

Take the first 4 rounders and use money to sign Karlsson or Panarin.


I’d be incredibly disappointed if Marner was the one to chase the money. He more than anyone should be willing to take a discount to help make everything fit

Signing a UFA for the same or less money and acquiring 4 1sts for an RFA pretty much allows you to not skip a beat and keep the train rolling for years if you draft well.

I cannot see Mitch not signing but if he is not signed before the draft I would start floating the idea to the Marner camp.