TSN: [Dreger] Expects Laine to get 11M AAV

[TheDoldrums]

Wasn't Dreger the guy that said Matthews wouldn't sign "for a penny less than McDavid"?

Technically, no. Dreger said a Western Conference GM would buy him a steak if Matthews got less than McDavid.

 

[blinkman360]

good thing he isn't a ufa but a rfa and will get paid like one.

RFA's get paid these days though - at least the "superstars" do. Many people put him in that category, especially when he's already being predicted to win Richard trophies. Isles fans are already bracing for Barzal's contract if he repeats his 2017-18 success. It's just the way it is.

he isn't worth 11M when no other snipers do that kind of money.... Pac at 7 and Laine at 11, I know the Talent is different and the age, but 11M is way too much

Not really. If he's the best goal scorer since Ovechkin, he'll most likely get paid like it. Ovechkin signed for like 9.5M back in '08. I don't see how Laine doesn't at least get that in 2018...

 

[GaryPoppins]

Players are incorporated, when people on this sight learn that personal rates rates are almost meaningless. And with taxes in Canada....primary residence a big factor.

Interesting. Makes a ton of sense. Would bring their tax rate down to about 17% instead of the 50.4% if they were sole-proprietor. Cool factoid!

 

[Jozay]

I doubt it and really hope it doesnt happen lol

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

RFA's get paid these days though - at least the "superstars" do. Many people put him in that category, especially when he's already being predicted to win Richard trophies. Isles fans are already bracing for Barzal's contract if he repeats his 2017-18 success. It's just the way it is.



Not really. If he's the best goal scorer since Ovechkin, he'll most likely get paid like it. Ovechkin signed for like 9.5M back in '08. I don't see how Laine doesn't at least get that in 2018...

lmao you are comparing Laine to Ovy ?

Really ?

 

[Stuzchuk]

That's a lot o cash! I could see it, although I think it'll be less. I've been wrong before though.



I really think (okay, let's be honest, I really hope) those are unrealistic figures. I could maybe see them go as high as the Tavares contract for Matthews (even that is a stretch given results to date), but higher?

Marner's a great player but a $10M player? Yikes...not yet, anyway.

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/thre...nt-to-wait-until-next-summer-to-sign.2502067/

and why is Marner at 10M a "Yikes"? Draisaitl got 8.5M when the caps was still at 71M which would be 9.5M in todays money.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Players are incorporated, when people on this sight learn that personal rates rates are almost meaningless. And with taxes in Canada....primary residence a big factor.

So what? I'm incorporated. How it works is that your corporation gets paid......and then you need to pay yourself a personal income, as you are an employee of your corporation and need money to live. And you pay personal & corporate taxes on everything. You certainly pay less taxes in the corporate world and can write a lot more stuff off, but when you're talking millions of dollars in income......you still pay a LOT.

 

[Commander Clueless]

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/thre...nt-to-wait-until-next-summer-to-sign.2502067/

and why is Marner at 10M a "Yikes"? Draisaitl got 8.5M when the caps was still at 71M which would be 9.5M in todays money.

Draisaitl was also coming off of a 30-goal, 75+ point season wasn't he? Marner could have a huge season this year and then we could talk the $10M range in my mind.

Also, signing Matthews at a higher number than Tavares seems bad for team optics. Granted, there were people saying Tavares took less to sign with the Leafs, but Matthews hasn't reached Tavares' peak yet. Again, a huge season from him could catapult him to $12M territory.

Admittedly, there is a lot of hope in these words.

 

[One Winged Angel]

$11 million per year when Blake Wheeler outscored him by 21 points last year? How could Chevy justify that?

 

[BlueBaron]

Lol if true. Thank god we have Gaudreau locked down for the next 4 years, as I cannot imagine what he would've gotten now.

Yes, the GM's have ruined their own RFA advantage with these stupid contracts and it all goes back to Buffalo and Edmonton. Nurse is what an RFA contract should look like, not this 10 mil stuff that is going on.

I don't see him getting that much.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Wait so this is what Dreger thinks he will get? I remember them saying Stamkos will definitely break the 10 mil mark. These media guys have no clue.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

So that's just what Dreger thinks?

Like....he didn't hear anyone say it?
He didn't get any insider information?
That's just what he THINKS?

....

 

[blinkman360]

lmao you are comparing Laine to Ovy ?

Really ?

If I was comparing Laine to Ovi I would have suggested 14M or in that ballpark for this contract.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I would highly consider trading him if this is what he wants.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Dreger I remember a couple seasons ago. When he said that Detroit was the front runner for Steven Stamkos. Yeah right he's lost all credibility here lately.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Lot of money for a one dimensional player.

I doubt Laine gets over 10 million though. Would really look bad to pay him more than the captain considering he is a much worse player.

 

[The Assclown]

You can't be serious...you value Nylander over Laine?
Sorry guys, 10-11M is the new 7-8M The cap has moved quite a bit in the last couple of years...the agents are a greedy bunch and they will get these kids their $$$

You fell for the troll.

 

[powerstuck]

Lot of people misunderstand that the guys who signed for 7-8 M two years ago would be getting 9-10 M today.

 

[WesMcCauley]

He better pay Scheifele’s meals rest of his life.

Almost double vs. Scheifele and 3mil more than Wheeler. And Laine ain’t better.

I agree but this is the "problem" with longterm contracts before breakout seasons and the cap rising. If Scheifele signed a new contract this summer he would get a lot more than he earns now.

At the same time, a lot of players sign contracts and decline...

Overall you usually get underpaid during your rfa years and early ufa years and overpaid in your 30s because you sign a long UFA contract and decline... The guys who are top players during their ELC dont get bridged, sign long deals and manage to get top numbers because they are so young and teams now the cap goes up.

 

[Voight]

I think his even strength play is going to have to improve a lot to even consider that kind of money. Luckily Dreger is out to lunch with everything and anything involving the Jets. They have him on the local TSN station here and he never has a clue what he's talking about and always twists the conversation to talk about the Leafs somehow. Did Dreger say why he thinks that is the number? What comps is he using? That's a lot of money for a RFA winger. Essentially I believe he's using Corey Perry's contract with a projected 82.5 million cap but Perry's contract was all UFA years and Laine is coming off his ELC. Kucherov just signed for $9.5 coming off a 100 point season but again that contract is all UFA years.

Perry was also a much more accomplished player.

 

[KingsFan7824]

$11 million per year when Blake Wheeler outscored him by 21 points last year? How could Chevy justify that?

If you're paying Laine somewhere around $11m, give or take, you're paying the guy for what he's going to do between the years of 21 and 27, 28, or 29. He's already scored 80 goals. Ovechkin had 98 in his first two seasons, but was already 20 by the time he started with the Caps. Laine only turned 20 in April. At the same age, Wheeler was still in college, and would be for 2 more years.

I'm going to guess Laine's agent isn't going to let what Wheeler did last year to influence whatever huge deal Laine signs. Whether it's $11m, $10m, $9.75m, etc.

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

He better pay Scheifele’s meals rest of his life.

Almost double vs. Scheifele and 3mil more than Wheeler. And Laine ain’t better.

You can ask for whatever you want when you score 44.

 

[al secord]

And I expect that Dreger is making things up again.

 

[BB88]

I highly doubt he asks that at the end of day, but still this shows how ridiculous the Pasta contract comparisons are.
We are talking different level contract here no matter what.

He better pay Scheifele’s meals rest of his life.

Almost double vs. Scheifele and 3mil more than Wheeler. And Laine ain’t better.

He didn't play with either last year at ES regularly, and what Laine has achieved post draft in 2 years >>>>> Scheifele.

You think Chevy could sign Scheifele today for 6M per season?,
how Scheifele looks today means nothing on Laines contract negotiations.

 

[Mickey Marner]

It's not like Dreger would know.