Draft and UDFA Thread 2017-18

[Edge]

People I talk to say that Farabee has big time bust potential. He's local to the area so I'm inclined to believe it.

I'm happy to go boom-bust with some picks but I'd rather it be in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Re: Farabee, that's probably a first for me.

 

[Ghost of jas]

There's your higher risk/higher reward type.

Sounds to me if the Rangers were to get a forward with their lottery pick, if they manage to add another pick in the teens for Zuccarello, Wilde might be worth moving up to get.

 

[Edge]

There are a lot of intriguing players this year. You could easily come away with a top prospect or star pretty well into the draft.

There are a number of guys I'd be very happy to come away with.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Sounds to me if the Rangers were to get a forward with their lottery pick, if they manage to add another pick in the teens for Zuccarello, Wilde might be worth moving up to get.

That would be a really great outcome if they can nab a top 7 player and Wilde in the teens.

Wilde has impressively nimble feet and stick despite having a crazy reach. Rare to find that combo.

 

[Ghost of jas]

There are a lot of intriguing players this year. You could easily come away with a top prospect or star pretty well into the draft.

There are a number of guys I'd be very happy to come away with.

And this is part of the reason I feel more confident in this rebuild than what we saw in 2004...there a potentially more chances to get quality players, since this class is considered a much deeper and better overall class than 2004. Plus, the Rangers won’t waste their time taking a goalie in the top 10.

 

[brians1128]

Sounds to me if the Rangers were to get a forward with their lottery pick, if they manage to add another pick in the teens for Zuccarello, Wilde might be worth moving up to get.

That would be money in terms of the rebuild. Wilde seems to slip in the rankings but I think he has big potential and getting him in the teens might be one of the better value picks in the draft

 

[broadwayblue]

And this is part of the reason I feel more confident in this rebuild than what we saw in 2004...there a potentially more chances to get quality players, since this class is considered a much deeper and better overall class than 2004. Plus, the Rangers won’t waste their time taking a goalie in the top 10.

Hopefully we won't take any goalies unless a really highly rated prospect drops significantly. Even then I would prefer it not be with our first 5 selections.

 

[Edge]

And this is part of the reason I feel more confident in this rebuild than what we saw in 2004...there a potentially more chances to get quality players, since this class is considered a much deeper and better overall class than 2004. Plus, the Rangers won’t waste their time taking a goalie in the top 10.

This was one of the reasons so many people were hoping they'd pick now to rebuild. Doing it during what it is perceived to be a deeper draft gives them a great opportunity to restock quickly.

And that says nothing about the talent they got back in the trades --- very solid all-around.

 

[LaffyTaffy]

@Steve Kournianos whens the next mock comin?

 

[Ghost of jas]

This was one of the reasons so many people were hoping they'd pick now to rebuild. Doing it during what it is perceived to be a deeper draft gives them a great opportunity to restock quickly.

And that says nothing about the talent they got back in the trades --- very solid all-around.

It just feels better all around this time. Better players coming back, better value in the trades made and a better draft to select in.

 

[Edge]

It just feels better all around this time. Better players coming back, better value in the trades made and a better draft to select in.

I think Shestyorkin, Andersson, Chytil and Howden are all great prospects --- really like all of them.

I think Lindgren, Hajek and others have really good potential as well.

But I think this draft, if the Rangers do it right, and get a little lucky, has a chance to really be the turning point for the next decade.

 

[Edge]

The Hockey News gave up any credibility a long time ago.

It's sad really. Those future watch issues used to be "must read" material.

Outside of the draft preview, I haven't touched a copy in years.

 

[Ghost of jas]

It's sad really. Those future watch issues used to be "must read" material.

Outside of the draft preview, I haven't touched a copy in years.

I have more faith in posters here than I do with most of the writers regarding the draft these days. I think the last THN Draft Preview I have was from 2008 with Stamkos on the cover.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Here’s one for you Wilde fans.

@Steve Kournianos, where do you have him ranked? Your website isn't working for me right now.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think Shestyorkin, Andersson, Chytil and Howden are all great prospects --- really like all of them.

I think Lindgren, Hajek and others have really good potential as well.

But I think this draft, if the Rangers do it right, and get a little lucky, has a chance to really be the turning point for the next decade.

Especially if this team ever got lucky and made it into the top three.

 

[Edge]

I have more faith in posters here than I do with most of the writers regarding the draft these days. I think the last THN Draft Preview I have was from 2008 with Stamkos on the cover.

I think we have a very good selection of observers, especially on the Rangers board.

Even when I disagree with someone's take, or we obviously have different ways of evaluating players, I find that often times they at least have a point.

A lot publications these days...eh, very hit or miss for me.

And then I look at some of the prices people have wanted to charge over the years, and I shake my head. If you're going to take people's good, hard-earned money, you at least have to be right more than you're wrong. Otherwise, you're just charging people for a "weather report" and that's not okay.

 

[RangerBlues]

I want D men who can posses the puck and be a little physical.
I want wings who can forcheck and move the puck quickly.

Highlight reels of guys skating around pylons dont do it for me.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

While we're on the subject, I do really miss the Red Line Report. Woodlief always had an outside the box take and I found his views if nothing else extremely interesting.

 

[Mac n Gs]

@Steve Kournianos, where do you have him ranked? Your website isn't working for me right now.

He has him 14th

 

[Edge]

While we're on the subject, I do really miss the Red Line Report. Woodlief always had an outside the box take and I found his views if nothing else extremely interesting.

I was very torn on RLR.

On the one hand, they went into a lot more depth than most other services. But sometimes their outside the box takes were so far outside the box that ended being way off. Waaaaaay off.

And when you're going to charge someone $300+ a year, you need to have a better batting average than the people who are doing it for free.

I don't care if those people are piecing together from other people's observations, or aren't sitting on the games. If they're more accurate than you, then they've figured out a better mousetrap, they win, game over.

Once you start charging money for a service, you have to provide a better service. Period.

 

[Leetch3]

Used to love RLR. Could never get passed them having jessiman #4 lol

 

[Edge]

Used to love RLR. Could never get passed them having jessiman #4 lol

Or Legwand ahead of Lecavalier in 1998.

There was a lot of that kind of stuff.

Personally, I could shrug it off, except for how many times Kyle went out of his way to take jabs at other sources and tell anyone who would listen how his guys were the only ones at these games and therefore they were the best source.

For me, once you put that target on your back, you better consistently deliver.

 

[Leetch3]

Or Legwand ahead of Lecavalier in 1998.

There was a lot of that kind of stuff.

Personally, I could shrug it off, except for how many times Kyle went out of his way to take jabs at other sources and tell anyone who would listen how his guys were the only ones at these games and therefore they were the best source.

For me, once you put that target on your back, you better consistently deliver.

No one is right all the time but the jessiman pick is a wound that will never heal lol

 

[Lion Hound]

While we're on the subject, I do really miss the Red Line Report. Woodlief always had an outside the box take and I found his views if nothing else extremely interesting.

Woodlief is still my favorite draft guide. I like to go back at past issues and see what he wrote about certain players. Its funny...He gets lambasted by HF after his guide posts, but in a few years a lot of what he says is bang on.

Side note, Last year he had had Lias similar to most except FC and Black book. They had him in the teens. Woodlief had him 20. He had Chytil higher then everyone pretty much. He was #31 with Redline. Other guides had him #70, and #64.

 

[dumpin]

I want D men who can posses the puck and be a little physical.
I want wings who can forcheck and move the puck quickly.

Highlight reels of guys skating around pylons dont do it for me.

I want a Scott Stevens clone, lol. Asking for too much am I? Hated him but he was real good. Anyone in this draft remotely resembles Stevens?