Confirmed with Link: Domi signs extension 2y 3.15M per

[Deluded Puck]

"Maybe Domi can become the next Marchand"

"Have you seen who will be developing him hahaha"

" Julien? The guy who developed Marchand"

Max Domi has nowhere near the tools of a Brad Marchand.

Marchand was already a 20-20 player in his first full season.

He was always going to be an elite winger in this league.

 

[Deluded Puck]

One thing people tend to forget is Galchenyuk has played six NHL seasons yet some of us still treat him as a prospect. A young guy at work commenting on this trade saying Galchenyuk will be a good vet for Arizona. I nearly called him out then thought well to young guy Galchenyuk could be considered a vet.

I strongly believe that after six seasons the player we know is the player Galchenyuk is. We will see how he does with another team but I expect the same player I've known. He will have up years and down years but Galchenyuk isn't going to be a perennial dominating force.

Domi has only played three seasons on a team that is at least equally as bad as us, likely worse. With Domi we don't know the player, he could blossom he really could.

I don’t trust the talent evaluators in this organisation. At all. You only have to look at their track record to see that the reason for this mistrust is well placed.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

I don’t trust the talent evaluators in this organisation. At all. You only have to look at their track record to see that the reason for this mistrust is well placed.

Don't need talent evaluators when you have youtube highlights

 

[Deluded Puck]

Don't need talent evaluators when you have youtube highlights

The insinuation That Galchenyuk is only rated by highlight-reel watchers is insulting to be honest.

 

[Redux91]

Max Domi has nowhere near the tools of a Brad Marchand.

Marchand was already a 20-20 player in his first full season.

He was always going to be an elite winger in this league.

You mean the 21g 20a 41 points Brad Marchand? who was a 22 year old rookie? Who progressed under a certain claude julien, That Brad Marchand?

Naah, you're right .. a 20 year old Max Domi's 18 goals 36 assists 52 points as a Rookie doesnt even come CLOSE to that rookie brad marchand season boy i tell ya.


lol like come on, im not saying he's going to be the next brad marchand but there is a LITTLE bit of similarities between these guys..and if domi can turn into what marchand DID become, well then we might actually have something on our hands here

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

The insinuation That Galchenyuk is only rated by highlight-reel watchers is insulting to be honest.

Talking about Bergevin's defence of the trade by telling everyone to go look at Domi's youtube highlights

 

[ECWHSWI]

Ya I think people need to accept that Galchenyuk is what he is. A 25g/50p guy who is a sniper on your PP. Good player, but Domi is the one here who has upside.

sure, the guy who's 23 still has upside, unlike the 24 years old...

upside went up as soon as the trade happen is my guess.

 

[WeThreeKings]

sure, the guy who's 23 still has upside, unlike the 24 years old...

upside went up as soon as the trade happen is my guess.

Well obviously the guy who's been spoon fed minutes on top lines his entire career has more upside than the near PPG center who has been f***ed around and held behind KHL Desharnais for 4years.

 

[le_sean]

Ah yes spoon fed minutes with the great Anthony Duclair and the immortal 52 year old Shane Doan. How did he not win the Art Ross.

 

[BLONG7]

Fine deal.

I'm not gonna hate on Domi even though I hate Bergevin, Hopefully he works out for us and there's nothing wrong with that deal.

Agreed..........I am just getting so tired of this GM, and hoping he becomes like a broken clock, where he can at least be right, twice a day...

 

[BLONG7]

I don’t trust the talent evaluators in this organisation. At all. You only have to look at their track record to see that the reason for this mistrust is well placed.

Couldn't agree more. And so Molson just lets it continue...time for the media and fans to give it hard, to Geoff!!

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Max Domi has nowhere near the tools of a Brad Marchand.

Marchand was already a 20-20 player in his first full season.

He was always going to be an elite winger in this league.

While I'm not saying Domi will be like Marchand, but let's look at his stats

Domi 18 - 34
Marchand 20 - 21.

Again, not saying Domi will be him, just stating you should have used a better argument. Marchand continue to progress (granted with a better team) and Domi didn't.

 

[aresknights]

What does it matter what HF boards's response would've been? And for the record I would imagine it would've been a lot like how people reacted to Drouin signing a 5 year deal after getting traded.



It's not a good deal for us. Either he becomes the player he can be in which case we end up paying top-dollar for him rather then having him at a good caphit. Or he doesn't improve and we've made another terrible trade which makes it irrelevant if he's overpaid.



He's been in the NHL 3 years now, what he did in juniors is irrelevant. He can be a good player that helps us win games, but in all likelyhood we gave up the better player who could do more to help us win games.

[/QUOTE]

So you wanted MB to sign him long term?
Its a deal that gives both sides some insurance. If he proves to be the player he can be as you say, we had him on the cheap for 2 years then pay him accordingly. Don't see a problem with that myself.
If he doesn't, you had him at a manageable cost for 2 years.

The time to move AG to maximize return was 1-2 yrs ago.
Ill let it play out before judging. AG wasn't the super C prospect so many on here claim.

 

[aresknights]

heard the same about Shaw and his PO heroics (didnt play all the games vs NYR)
heard the same about Weber alpha leadership (team kept sinking with him, made 0 difference)


will it happen with Domi ?? haha! maybe, the great MB keep trying, he'll eventually get one right... even if only by accident...

heard the same about Shaw and his PO heroics (didnt play all the games vs NYR)
heard the same about Weber alpha leadership (team kept sinking with him, made 0 difference)


will it happen with Domi ?? haha! maybe, the great MB keep trying, he'll eventually get one right... even if only by accident...

Any thoughts on the extension?
Would you have signed an extension for him or let him go RFA? Longer term? More or less $?

 

[lo striver]

Don't need talent evaluators when you have youtube highlights

You go on youtube, watch all AG highlights and add up all likes. Than you watch MD highlights and add up all likes. If MD has more likes than AG, you trade AG for MD. That system is actually called "Montreal scouting with advanced analytics".

 

[ItzaGreat]

"Maybe Domi can become the next Marchand"

"Have you seen who will be developing him hahaha"

" Julien? The guy who developed Marchand"

At best, he'll become the next Andrew Shaw...

So, not even close.

 

[Hansman]

I am not a Habs fan, but would someone here mind explaining this for me, because on the surface this trade doen't seem to make a lot of sense. What exactly is Montreal's reasoning here? Because from my perspective it looks like they traded away a a 20-30 goal scoring winger (age 24) for a 10 goal scoring winger (age 23)... which on the surface doesn't seem to make sense, especially because they still didn't get a Centre out of the deal. They signed Domi to $1.7 million less then Galchenyuk; was that the primary reason for this trade, to clear cap space? The only way I can see this making sense is if Bergevin needed the extra money to be able to throw at Tavares.

Any Habs fan have an inkling what the logic is behind this move?

Expect the unexpected....They have a plan.......

 

[Sorinth]

So you wanted MB to sign him long term?
Its a deal that gives both sides some insurance. If he proves to be the player he can be as you say, we had him on the cheap for 2 years then pay him accordingly. Don't see a problem with that myself.
If he doesn't, you had him at a manageable cost for 2 years.

The time to move AG to maximize return was 1-2 yrs ago.
Ill let it play out before judging. AG wasn't the super C prospect so many on here claim.

I wouldn't have made the trade in the first place, but given that we did yes it would've made a lot more sense to sign him long term cap friendly deal.

First it would make the move consistent, by not doing it Bergevin is essentially saying to Domi we traded for you but we don't really believe in you. So if you're hoping a change in scenery fixes his issues then that's a terrible message to send.

Second, it's extremely unlikely we become competitive over the next 2 seasons. Best case is that 3 years from now we've addressed the C & D and have become a legitimate contender. So having Domi on the cheap for 2 years is meaningless, what matters is how much he would cost when we are a contending team.

Third, if he doesn't work out and we've overpaid in money & term it's not going to matter because we won't be contenders. There's zero chance of us being contenders in the short-medium term if guys like Domi and Drouin stay at their current levels.

When you've only got one chance you go all in you don't hedge your bet.

 

[JohnnyB11]

At best, he'll become the next Andrew Shaw...

So, not even close.

Glad your crystal ball is working, mine’s still in the shop

 

[Sorinth]

I am not a Habs fan, but would someone here mind explaining this for me, because on the surface this trade doen't seem to make a lot of sense. What exactly is Montreal's reasoning here? Because from my perspective it looks like they traded away a a 20-30 goal scoring winger (age 24) for a 10 goal scoring winger (age 23)... which on the surface doesn't seem to make sense, especially because they still didn't get a Centre out of the deal. They signed Domi to $1.7 million less then Galchenyuk; was that the primary reason for this trade, to clear cap space? The only way I can see this making sense is if Bergevin needed the extra money to be able to throw at Tavares.

Any Habs fan have an inkling what the logic is behind this move?

At the end of the season Bergevin blamed "attitude" for why we struggled and our gullible owner promised that players who didn't have the right attitude would be shipped out for players that do.

Galchenyuk was the scapegoat, he's being unfairly labeled as a player with a bad attitude and Domi is targeted because he's a guy who works hard and leaves his heart out on the ice.

 

[llamateizer]

Terrible, terrible contract. A guy coming off ELC had no leverage. Bergevin just gave Domi 10% more money than he gave Subban on his bridge deal.

He is being paid just $600k less than Gallagher got for a 6-year deal that ate up two years of UFA.

The GM is literally lost.

What's he going to pay Danault? $6M??

Guy needs to be fired yesterday before the team ends up in last place for the next five years.

the Salary cap raised by 25% since Subban's bridge contract.
in perspective, Domi is paid less than Subban in his bridge deal

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Terrible, terrible contract. A guy coming off ELC had no leverage. Bergevin just gave Domi 10% more money than he gave Subban on his bridge deal.

He is being paid just $600k less than Gallagher got for a 6-year deal that ate up two years of UFA.

The GM is literally lost.

What's he going to pay Danault? $6M??

Guy needs to be fired yesterday before the team ends up in last place for the next five years.

In what world is a 45 pts winger getting paid 3.15M a terrible deal. You said in the other thread he was worth less than 2M. Give your head a shake.

 

[ItzaGreat]

Glad your crystal ball is working, mine’s still in the shop

It is, what I think, is called, an educated guess.

Not sure though.

Not a linguist.

 

[aresknights]

I still like the extension for reasons already mentioned. Its far value now for his past production and potential, in 2 yrs Montreal still has control and not locked in long term if they look a different direction in 2 yrs.

I think both sides wanted the short term deal.

 

[Redux91]

While I'm not saying Domi will be like Marchand, but let's look at his stats

Domi 18 - 34
Marchand 20 - 21.

Again, not saying Domi will be him, just stating you should have used a better argument. Marchand continue to progress (granted with a better team) and Domi didn't.

Hell, Marchand had a 42 point season at the age of 26,
we're freaking out about domi's 45 last year on a bad team