Sorinth
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If you don't have a good idea on what he will become and think he might turn into a 35pt player then it makes no sense to trade a guy whose consistently put up 50+ points.
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If you don't have a good idea on what he will become and think he might turn into a 35pt player then it makes no sense to trade a guy whose consistently put up 50+ points.
"Maybe Domi can become the next Marchand"
"Have you seen who will be developing him hahaha"
" Julien? The guy who developed Marchand"
"Have you seen who will be developing him hahaha"
" Julien? The guy who developed Marchand"
MarkovsKnee
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Which is why the board is overwhelming pissed at the trade.
I think the skills are there for Domi to at least hang in at that 40-50 pt level, which is what they're paying him for.
Question is can he grow into that 60pt+ player?
Doubt it. He's a guy who should be on a wait and see contract.
justafan22
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Redux91
I do Three bullets.
Relax a little,
Its 3.15 million for a 45-52 pt player whos still only 23, Gallagher career high this year 54 points makes 3.75 mill, galchenyuk career high points 56, makes 4.9 million
i LOATHE defending any aspect of this trade because i was definitely a galchenyuk fan, ..but we need to relax on the domi hate a little ... everyone keeps looking at just 9 goals and thinks BUST, but the kid is already borderline 50 pts with the best (hopefully) yet to come
Arizona had 0 leadership last year in the locker room last year, one can only hope veteran presence like weber and price help this year...and hopefully max gone so he doesnt rub off...
Ozmodiar
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Right!
This is an other example, like the one posted by @Andrei79, of one of Bergevin's "what the hell was he thinking" moves.
We need a nickname for all these jaw-dropping, face-palming, eye-rolling moves.
Better yet, I want to see a 2 minute segment with ESPN's NFL Primetime crew listing all of Bergevin's trades. After each trade summary, the crew would shout "C'mon, man!!".
"Bergevin traded a much younger norris trophy winning defenseman and fan favourite, PK Subban, for a player who is clearly past his prime and looked tired in the playoffs!
C'mon, man!!"
"Bergevin traded a young talented prospect who, by Bergevin's own admission, fits the profile of a player that every GM is looking for , for a small winger with a history of pouting and deemed expendable by a team with some depth.
C'mon, man!!"
"Bergevin mismanaged then traded a player capable of scoring 30 goals, and had successful stints while playing center for - get this - another smallish winger.
C'mon, man!!"
"Bergevin traded 2 2nd round picks for Andrew Shaw who..
[interrupting] C'mon, man!!"
Assists obviously don't exist.
SirClintonPortis
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Domi actually needs a MaxPac epiphany. MaxPac used to be a pass first guy with no indication he would become a goalscorer.
Domi needs a Max Pac mindset or else he is a one dimensional, dime-a-dozen, passable assist producer. Just breaking 25 goals would make him deadly. And he can chill out on being the next Claude Lemieux lest he break his hand again.
Redux91
I do Three bullets.
Yeah we really need it to happen, if domi never reaches at LEAST 25 goals this trade may finally be the one that does it for ol Bergy boy
If we get a center tho... our list of wingers looks suddenly real good with domi,lehkonen,gallagher, scherbak hopefully and maybe even drouin depending on who we get, and ..sigh..maybe even max
Yeah you're right. When you put it that way, I now see the light in 2013-2014 when Joe Thornton had 11 goals and 65 assists for 76 points in 82 games, that was a bad season. Thank you for helping me understand that goals are everything.
I like Domi and we will like his game. Those complaining about his contract might want to peak at what Bergevin is paying Andrew Shaw.
Adam Michaels
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I finally get to join the dance. It was my daughter's birthday party and I never got the chance to check this out.
I like the deal. Good cap hit and he has another four years before he's a UFA. So after this "show me" bridge deal, the Habs still have control.
I am happy Domi is with Montreal. I've always liked this player.
I like the deal. Good cap hit and he has another four years before he's a UFA. So after this "show me" bridge deal, the Habs still have control.
I am happy Domi is with Montreal. I've always liked this player.
Man nothing better than a daughters birthday for the chance to the dadest dad you can be. usually with a few face palms from daughter.
I think there is a high chance Galchenyuk would have walked as a UFA so if you consider that, we just got four years of a controlled player as you said. To me the holy grail is controlled players, after that is players you locked into long term contracts before they broke out, after that are players who are not good enough to be highly desirable as a UFA. Everyone else is a risk.
aresknights
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Could you imagine the masses response if they had done that?
The, I hate MB crowd, would go nuts lol. Too long, too much...
Its a good deal for both sides. Kid has a passion for the game. And has to prove he can rebound from s couple down years.
As a LK season tic holder saw him live over well over 100x. If he is healthy he will help the club win games. AG mailed it in.
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Ezpz
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Regardless of the outcome of this trade, we gave up the more valuable piece. It started with the Kristo Thomas trade. It didn’t matter that both busted, our piece wasn’t struggling at that point and theirs was on the path to busting. Both busted but we lost value. This is something Bergevin does constantly.
That's an odd example.
Kristo 2008 2nd round pick 56th overall who never played an NHL game ever traded for Thomas a 2nd round pick 40th overall in a later draft(2010) played in the NHL and is still in north America.
How exactly did we lose value? We got younger, got a higher picked player and a player who actually played in NHL more than our pick.
They both busted but the trade isn't exactly a loss.
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One thing people tend to forget is Galchenyuk has played six NHL seasons yet some of us still treat him as a prospect. A young guy at work commenting on this trade saying Galchenyuk will be a good vet for Arizona. I nearly called him out then thought well to young guy Galchenyuk could be considered a vet.
I strongly believe that after six seasons the player we know is the player Galchenyuk is. We will see how he does with another team but I expect the same player I've known. He will have up years and down years but Galchenyuk isn't going to be a perennial dominating force.
Domi has only played three seasons on a team that is at least equally as bad as us, likely worse. With Domi we don't know the player, he could blossom he really could.
I strongly believe that after six seasons the player we know is the player Galchenyuk is. We will see how he does with another team but I expect the same player I've known. He will have up years and down years but Galchenyuk isn't going to be a perennial dominating force.
Domi has only played three seasons on a team that is at least equally as bad as us, likely worse. With Domi we don't know the player, he could blossom he really could.
Some people also forget galchenyuk last played C full time when he was what, 16? He's 24 now...
Right, in a respectful manner I'm not sure whether you are trying to prove that because the last time he played center full time he was a kid in bush league, as such he is no longer a center. Or that because we never played him at center he could still be a good center and we just don't know it.
I'm just iterating that it may not be him anymore. Whether it's habs fault or how life planned it, it's been 8 years
DramaticGloveSave
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Ya I think people need to accept that Galchenyuk is what he is. A 25g/50p guy who is a sniper on your PP. Good player, but Domi is the one here who has upside.
Sorinth
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What does it matter what HF boards's response would've been? And for the record I would imagine it would've been a lot like how people reacted to Drouin signing a 5 year deal after getting traded.
It's not a good deal for us. Either he becomes the player he can be in which case we end up paying top-dollar for him rather then having him at a good caphit. Or he doesn't improve and we've made another terrible trade which makes it irrelevant if he's overpaid.
He's been in the NHL 3 years now, what he did in juniors is irrelevant. He can be a good player that helps us win games, but in all likelyhood we gave up the better player who could do more to help us win games.
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Ahahah .. Domi's upside IS 50 points... and if he ever reach 25 goals I'll be surprised. Makes no sense.
ECWHSWI
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heard the same about Shaw and his PO heroics (didnt play all the games vs NYR)
heard the same about Weber alpha leadership (team kept sinking with him, made 0 difference)
will it happen with Domi ?? haha! maybe, the great MB keep trying, he'll eventually get one right... even if only by accident...
