mathonwy
Positively #toxic
- Jan 21, 2008
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contender for sure
For a bottom 3 spot two seasons in a row? I agree.
contender for sure
contender for sure
SECOND LAST PLACE following a THIRD LAST PACE SEASON.
Give the guy a promotion.
how may that have been achieved exactly?
How the **** do you think? By drafting, signing or trading for a suitable replacement. Which...oh yeah, Benning thought he was doing by making it rain draft picks for Sutter.
lemme guess. you're currently upset he's stacking the roster so we can't tank?
stealth tank 4eva
McDavid? Matthews?
Matt Tkachuk?
Steven Stamkos?
I'm fine waiting on BB, OJ, EP, Dahlen and whoever comes next.
That's when we can pull the trigger for a Dougie Hamilton or Ryan Johansen.
A~nd you think Hamilton or Johansen would ever consider this trash pile because....?
McDavid? Matthews?
Matt Tkachuk?
Steven Stamkos?
I'm fine waiting on BB, OJ, EP, Dahlen and whoever comes next.
That's when we can pull the trigger for a Dougie Hamilton or Ryan Johansen.
This notion that the GM 'runs' the draft and picks most of the players is one of the dumbest misconceptions here. Again, there's a video on CDC from 2014 where Benning doesn't even know what league Tryamkin was playing in when they drafted him. He'll definitely have some input but the notion of a 'great drafting GM' is just hogwash. Good picks come from having a good staff.
What are those, random names? Yes, we could have drafted one of those. Uh-huh. Very good.
And if your plan is to hope all our prospects and picks work out, it's no wonder you're happy with Benning's performance.
You said he's had ample time to recover from Kesler. These are names of guys who were available who MAY have been able to do that within the timeframe.
We could have acquired them had we been in different positions, but alas we were not (apart from Tkachuk, who was available, but imo wouldn't have moved the needle that far).
Hence outlining why JB has not been able to yet recover the team to the extent you seem to expect.
Yeah he tried with Loui but he also didn't chock us up with the likes of Backes, Ladd, Belesky, Shattenkirk (decent contract though, I'll pay that), Alzner etc etc
You said he's had ample time to recover from Kesler. These are names of guys who were available who MAY have been able to do that within the timeframe.
We could have acquired them had we been in different positions, but alas we were not (apart from Tkachuk, who was available, but imo wouldn't have moved the needle that far).
Hence outlining why JB has not been able to yet recover the team to the extent you seem to expect.
Yeah he tried with Loui but he also didn't chock us up with the likes of Backes, Ladd, Belesky, Shattenkirk (decent contract though, I'll pay that), Alzner etc etc
apart from Tkachuk, who was available, but imo wouldn't have moved the needle that far).
Boy is that depressing to think about.Sedin-Sedin-Boeser
Tkachuk-Horvat-Ehlers
Dahlen-Larkin-Hansen
Guance-Richardson-White
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Tanev
Forsling-Tryamkin
Markstrom
FA/Demko
You don't hire the coach first (unless said guy is Scotty Bowman or Toe Blake). You hire the GM first and the GM hires the coach (reason why you should be reluctant to hire a guy who will be "learning on the job" along with his "learning on the job" President & "learning on the job" NHL coach).Aquilini is a known quantity around the league. If Benning gets fired, who steps in? They can't find an NHL Coach, are GMs easier to get?
Oh ffs, where was the team when he got here, where is it now. Ooo good thing we didn't sign Ladd or Backes...no, Eriksson, Dorsett, Sutter and Gudbranson have worked out much better. The team finished last season at or near the bottom of literally every measurable stat. This is a good job in your opinion?