mathonwy
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Does Jim Benning deserve a contract extension
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
contender for sure
SECOND LAST PLACE following a THIRD LAST PACE SEASON.
Give the guy a promotion.
lemme guess. you're currently upset he's stacking the roster so we can't tank?
stealth tank 4eva
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How the **** do you think? By drafting, signing or trading for a suitable replacement. Which...oh yeah, Benning thought he was doing by making it rain draft picks for Sutter.
*edit* Being a fan of Benning you might not be aware of this, but good players can actually come to this team via trades not just leave it.
McDavid? Matthews?
Matt Tkachuk?
Steven Stamkos?
I'm fine waiting on BB, OJ, EP, Dahlen and whoever comes next.
That's when we can pull the trigger for a Dougie Hamilton or Ryan Johansen.
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
A~nd you think Hamilton or Johansen would ever consider this trash pile because....?
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What are those, random names? Yes, we could have drafted one of those. Uh-huh. Very good.
And if your plan is to hope all our prospects and picks work out, it's no wonder you're happy with Benning's performance.
I don't think a GM "runs" the draft as in picks most of the players, but I think you're understating the impact a GM can have on the draft. A GM can easily favour size over skill or skill over size for example and up and down the entire draft can be impacted. Besides, when you have a GM who thinks and or says he can impact the draft then it's fair to hold him accountable good or bad no? So when Gillis and Benning talks about how they are going to work with the scouts and give them the necessary direction (while implying that they were not properly directed before) then they are effectively taking ownership of the draft process. So ya no they aren't making every pick themselves but it's naive that they have little to no impact at all.
As for your Tryamkin example, I don't think it's illustrative at all. Most GMs and North American based scouts don't follow the KHL closely. Tryamkin caught the eyes of many scouts at the WJC and having seen him play at the WJC, Benning really only needed his regional scout's positive opinion. Who cares if Benning didn't know he was playing for Yekaterinburg Automobilist. It's not like it's an easy team name to remember for an English speaker.
You said he's had ample time to recover from Kesler. These are names of guys who were available who MAY have been able to do that within the timeframe.
We could have acquired them had we been in different positions, but alas we were not (apart from Tkachuk, who was available, but imo wouldn't have moved the needle that far).
Hence outlining why JB has not been able to yet recover the team to the extent you seem to expect.
Yeah he tried with Loui but he also didn't chock us up with the likes of Backes, Ladd, Belesky, Shattenkirk (decent contract though, I'll pay that), Alzner etc etc
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Aquilini is a known quantity around the league. If Benning gets fired, who steps in? They can't find an NHL Coach, are GMs easier to get?
Anyway, the question isn't should he be fired, it's can he be fired? I suspect the answer is no. He follows orders, no matter how ludicrous. He mouths the company line. He doesn't laugh at Linden publicly. These are all key things. Add to that his endless supply of minor league Coaches and you have a valued employee, IMO.
Anyway, the question isn't should he be fired, it's can he be fired? I suspect the answer is no. He follows orders, no matter how ludicrous. He mouths the company line. He doesn't laugh at Linden publicly. These are all key things. Add to that his endless supply of minor league Coaches and you have a valued employee, IMO.
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Oh ffs, where was the team when he got here, where is it now. Ooo good thing we didn't sign Ladd or Backes...no, Eriksson, Dorsett, Sutter and Gudbranson have worked out much better. The team finished last season at or near the bottom of literally every measurable stat. This is a good job in your opinion?
Yes, I think three seasons is enough time to recover from dealing a #2 centre. Usually the players you get back in trade help that to some degree, but not here.
That's what happens when your GM is hopeless at his job.
Are you deluded? Tkachuk would be our most valuable young piece other than Horvat.
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Boy is that depressing to think about.Sedin-Sedin-Boeser
Tkachuk-Horvat-Ehlers
Dahlen-Larkin-Hansen
Guance-Richardson-White
Edler-Stecher
Hutton-Tanev
Forsling-Tryamkin
Markstrom
FA/Demko
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
You don't hire the coach first (unless said guy is Scotty Bowman or Toe Blake). You hire the GM first and the GM hires the coach (reason why you should be reluctant to hire a guy who will be "learning on the job" along with his "learning on the job" President & "learning on the job" NHL coach).
heh, having Lucic in the locker room with Miller would've make for a real **** show in the locker room. Would've made having Torts as coach a den of tranquility. Go Benning for the #1 overall pick! Might as well have Keenan as coach for some more hilarity.
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