Does anyone still think Marner is better than Matthews?

[BlueBaron]

So last summer a fair number were claiming Marner was better than Auston when the contract numbers came out. I'm curious now that Auston has had his breakout season if opinions have changed. Full disclosure I am a Matthews man.

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[BlueBaron]

@Nineteen67

Care to share who your other vote was for? I'm guessing Mo or Freddy?

 

[stickty111]

There wasn't ever a debate. Matthews is our best player.

 

[Lauro]

Not really, but still voted for him. I guess he'll bounce back next season like WN did this, not that he was bad, but we all know he can be much better. Maybe not AM good, but not as far behind as this season.

 

[BlueBaron]

There wasn't ever a debate. Matthews is our best player.

I surely have not imagined the many Leaf fans have who claimed Marner was the better. I agree with you but there is already 1 Marner vote 2 mins in.

 

[Nineteen67]

Paul does.

 

[TakeTheBody]

No.

 

[ACC1224]

Better this year or better since they started their careers?

Each player has strengths, depends on your preference on what they bring.

 

[Mess]

So last summer a fair number were claiming Marner was better than Auston when the contract numbers came out. I'm curious now that Auston has had his breakout season if opinions have changed. Full disclosure I am a Matthews man.

Marner was never better than Matthews unless points is the only measure by which a player is judged.

Matthews is a elite goal scoring #1C and nobody on the planet would trade Matthews for Marner in a straight up 1-1 deal. This is always a good test to see who is better or more valuable.

A goal scorer is more independent in his point production and a playmaker is highly reliant on the other players putting the puck in the net to drive their point production.

Doesn't mean Marner is not a good player in his own right, but he isn't on Matthews level.

 

[stickty111]

I surely have not imagined the many Leaf fans have who claimed Marner was the better. I agree with you but there is already 1 Marner vote 2 mins in.

I meant as in the debate wasn't justified. Matthews has always been better.

 

[BlueBaron]

I meant as in the debate wasn't justified. Matthews has always been better.

Ah, sorry. Yeah I never got it but Marner has always had some hardcore supporters.

 

[stickty111]

Ah, sorry. Yeah I never got it but Marner has always had some hardcore supporters.

It's a pretty easy decision.
A dominant generaltional goal scoring C or a playmaking elite winger.

 

[BlueBaron]

Better this year or better since they started their careers?

Each player has strengths, depends on your preference on what they bring.

Now and going forward.

 

[selltrade]

Easily Matthews thinking otherwise is foolish

 

[ACC1224]

Now and going forward.

Matthews was better this season and if things remain the same should be going forward

 

[mallory67]

Currently Matthews is better.
Marner has higher ceiling though. Makes players around him better and plays in all situations.

 

[Doublerum1975]

One plays the pk the other doesn't its not all about scoring

 

[Peasy]

One plays the pk the other doesn't its not all about scoring

Well damn, why wasn't Hyman included in this poll then?

Even Strength metrics this season.
Matthews: 3.8 GF/60, 2.5 GA/60.
Marner: 3.8 GF/60, 3.1 GA/60.

 

[TheBigFour]

One plays the pk the other doesn't its not all about scoring

Mcdavid doesn't play PK as well, so does that mean Marner is better than him too?

marner is a great player, will probably go down as one the better players to put on the leafs jersey but Matthews is still # 1.

 

[The Iceman]

Mitch had a better 2018-19
Matthews better this year.
Matthews always was going to be #1 Leaf due to the position he plays.

Pretty damn good 1-2 to sit back and watch for years to come!

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

While the offense has always been there for Matthews, this year his defensive game is miles and miles ahead of Marner. It's not a question, he's our best player.

 

[Battle Lin]

its been matthews since day 1

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Better this year or better since they started their careers?

Each player has strengths, depends on your preference on what they bring.

The answer is Matthews in both cases, so I'm not really sure why you would ask that. But yeah, it depends on whether you prefer the better player or the inferior player

 

[stickty111]

One plays the pk the other doesn't its not all about scoring

Matthews is a much better defensive player then Marner. Even when not accounting for scoring, Matthews walks circles around Marner.

 

[stickty111]

Also you can't say Marner has higher upside as he makes players around him better. Matthews does the same thing.
The more logical debate was Nylander vs Marner. When you look at Nylander's season this season, that is more of a fair question.
Matthews vs Marner is not a debate. Matthews was always better by a good amount.