Sportsnet: Do We Have a #1 Goalie? All Purpose Goalie Talk

[johnny_rudeboy]

Again, what's the difference between having a goalie that you drafted and one you acquired? I'm sure Boston, Columbus and Tampa Bay are kicking themselves for not drafting their own...

None really.The goalie you drafted is usually some one you followed for some time and it is always fun when to see them actually make it. You build up an emotional connection with that player. But in reality it does not matter at all, not one bit.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Hmmm... Interesting! Because media reported that Bernier is the one who is part of the new leadership group.

Reimer did speak up. He showed emotion, and he cared. Can't knock him for that.

 

[King Mapes]

Again, what's the difference between having a goalie that you drafted and one you acquired? I'm sure Boston, Columbus and Tampa Bay are kicking themselves for not drafting their own...

Considering goalies don't cost much, there really isn't a difference.

 

[81Reasons]

None really.The goalie you drafted is usually some one you followed for some time and it is always fun when to see them actually make it. You build up an emotional connection with that player. But in reality it does not matter at all, not one bit.

I agree and it's why I have always rooted for Reimer...it's classic underdog story.

Having said that I am hoping he gets traded somewhere so that he either has a chance to be #1 or at least to play for a good team. Can you imagine the hate towards him if he ruins our tank efforts?

 

[Stephen]

Again, what's the difference between having a goalie that you drafted and one you acquired? I'm sure Boston, Columbus and Tampa Bay are kicking themselves for not drafting their own...

The long term plan in Tampa is probably to give the job to Vasilevskiy

 

[ConnorTO]

reims the only goalie the leafs had to ever make the post season since...

yeah
let the man play

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

Reimer deserves the start. That being said, I'm willing to bet he gives up at least 4 goals next game.

 

[Paradoc]

His performance has been rather poor post Christmas break.

I sort of wonder if having to face 35-40 shots for 1.5 seasons finally caused him to snap.

Playing with the leafs will do that to you.

 

[Duke Silver]

Reimer deserves the start. That being said, I'm willing to bet he gives up at least 4 goals next game.

Only twice this season has Reimer given up 4 goals or less over the span of 2 consecutive starts. So your math is probably right.

 

[Paradoc]

Is it me or has the luster come off Bernier a lot this year? Beyond the somewhat spotty play from time to time, I get the sense that he may not be all that well liked, being 1) front and center with salute gate, 2) Nelson Mandela ignorant comments, 3) not always appearing to demonstrate toughness 4) blaming fans for a poor performance 5) looking like he's a bit rattled.

Yup. When Bernier starts playing well, this thread will become very quiet just like it was in the beginning of the season.

 

[AustonMitchWilly]

Time for Reims to take his team back.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Beat the Edmonton Oilers once and you're a world beater

 

[Dayjobdave]

Considering goalies don't cost much, there really isn't a difference.

I remember driving in my car and hearing the announcers say what a crazy move it was for Montreal to draft Carey Price so high in the first round.

Considering what we've been able to do with cheap goalies maybe it's time to spend on one...

 

[King Mapes]

I remember driving in my car and hearing the announcers say what a crazy move it was for Montreal to draft Carey Price so high in the first round.

Considering what we've been able to do with cheap goalies maybe it's time to spend on one...

That's just one goalie. There's also Dipietro and Lehtenon.

Look at other teams getting goalies cheap. Lundqvist, Rask, Quick, Bobrovski..

 

[613Leafer]

Two years ago, Price posted a .905 save % on the season at age 25.

Up until mid-december, Bernier had spent the previous two years pushing his name into a borderline top 10 goalie. So he's had a bad two months, who cares. Plenty of goalies have bad stretches or even bad seasons every once in a while.

Lets see how he's doing a year from now.

 

[Caesium]

There was some interesting speculation on Leafs Lunch today on whether Bernier bailed on the game on Saturday. Apparently he couldn't practice or play on Saturday because he felt dizzy. They said the optics looked pretty bad that he was listed as "viral infection" on the medical report and he's back practicing today with nothing wrong with him. I wonder if Bernier is quitting on this team.

 

[Muston Atthews]

There was some interesting speculation on Leafs Lunch today on whether Bernier bailed on the game on Saturday. Apparently he couldn't practice or play on Saturday because he felt dizzy. They said the optics looked pretty bad that he was listed as "viral infection" on the medical report and he's back practicing today with nothing wrong with him. I wonder if Bernier is quitting on this team.

What does that even mean? Why would Bernier "quit" on this team? So he can never get a job ever again in the NHL? I don't know about you, but if I was tasked with saving a frozen rubber dish coming at me ~30-40 times a game, I wouldn't want to do it if I was feeling dizzy. And I'm sure the coaching staff would be against it as well. Why would he choose to sit out against Edmonton of all teams instead of Nashville, the team that lit him up a month earlier? This theory makes absolutely 0 sense.

 

[kingstwitterguy]

Is it me or has the luster come off Bernier a lot this year? Beyond the somewhat spotty play from time to time, I get the sense that he may not be all that well liked, being 1) front and center with salute gate, 2) Nelson Mandela ignorant comments, 3) not always appearing to demonstrate toughness 4) blaming fans for a poor performance 5) looking like he's a bit rattled.

info/link about #4?

 

[TheTotalPackage]

There was some interesting speculation on Leafs Lunch today on whether Bernier bailed on the game on Saturday. Apparently he couldn't practice or play on Saturday because he felt dizzy. They said the optics looked pretty bad that he was listed as "viral infection" on the medical report and he's back practicing today with nothing wrong with him. I wonder if Bernier is quitting on this team.

That'd be an awfully foolish decision by him considering he is in a contract year. He needs to establish himself as a #1 to hit pay dirt.

He couldn't be that stupid to actually quit on the team, could he? Oh wait...Mandela.

Last sentence joking aside, no way he is quitting.

 

[Caesium]

What does that even mean? Why would Bernier "quit" on this team? So he can never get a job ever again in the NHL? I don't know about you, but if I was tasked with saving a frozen rubber dish coming at me ~30-40 times a game, I wouldn't want to do it if I was feeling dizzy. And I'm sure the coaching staff would be against it as well. Why would he choose to sit out against Edmonton of all teams instead of Nashville, the team that lit him up a month earlier? This theory makes absolutely 0 sense.

Jeff O'Neil would know better than most. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/leafs-lunch-hour-1-1.203381 at 6 minutes is when they talk about it.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Jeff O'Neil would know better than most. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/leafs-lunch-hour-1-1.203381 at 6 minutes is when they talk about it.

"Is he that dizzy that he can't come and sit by his equipment in the lockerroom?"

What a ****ing moron. Coming from the guy who missed games because of his fear of flying. "Are you that afraid that you can't just get on the team flight?" Sounds even worse than how you described it

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I think its time to build our #1 goalie from within...

Well we were doing that, but Nonis didn't believe Reimer was good enough despite pretty much carrying the Leafs to the playoffs and Game 7 in 2013.

Now I'm not saying I think Reimer is the better goalie. I'm not saying Bernier is either. Both are still unproven and have question marks surrounding their game still. We got Bernier at pretty good value don't get me wrong, but what might have been had we continued riding Reimer as the #1 guy, at least for another season. He may have still flopped, or he could've continued to grow. Instead he got relegated with little chance of ever taking back the #1 role and now we've got two unproven goalies who have had some mountain highs, but valley lows with this team.

This organization sure does love to dick around with their own drafted players.

 

[Jacquestrapless]

It was the Oilers. I'll hold judgement for the next few games. That being said, if we go full rebuild for the next few years, I'd gladly ship Bernier out. Reimer will likely be cheaper and decent enough for a tank.

 

[Atomos2]

Reim > Bernier. It took awhile but Bernier is now showing his true colors and now Reimer is showing his.

 

[Gary Batman]

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