LeafsNation75
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Phaneuf and Franson did work well on the 1st power play unit, so maybe that's something Caryle should try during the pre-season to see how they can play together in a 5 on 5 situation.
Dion Phaneuf discussion thread
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Bomber0104
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Yes..Dion Phaneuf was acquired for peanuts because he is underpaid for what he brings to the table.
Why not? It happens. His production is clearly worth more than $6.5 million.Yes..Dion Phaneuf was acquired for peanuts because he is underpaid for what he brings to the table.
Seriously, stop being in denial.
Bomber0104
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This has nothing to do with denial.
Why would a team would trade away a supposed star player for nothing?
Jimmy Firecracker
They Fired Sheldon!
Weren't there issues in the locker room as well with Iginla and Regehr? That also may have had something to do withthe trade.
Bomber0104
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Jimmy Firecracker
They Fired Sheldon!
I thought there were also rumblings that Sutter didn't call around enough or something and he could've gotten more.
In any case, I don't really care. As long as Phaneuf doesn't get a raise I'm fine with his contract. Only guy who should make 7 million on this team is Kessel.
Bomber0104
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Why does that even matter? He's producing at the top ten rate offensively up against the top lines. The other so-called "star" defenceman are primarily given offensive zone starts, against weaker lines and yet Phaneuf clusters with them.
What does that tell? It demonstrates that he's clearly worth more than $6.5 million. With that in mind, I have yet to see any respectable argument against Phaneuf in this entire thread.
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I could ask, why was Lupul moved by Anahiem as a salary dump? That trade got us a first line forward and surely, if he can be considered that great, he should've gotten more.
Lupul + Gardiner + 1st rounder for Beauchemin.
Looks like Lups is a fourth line energy forward...
PS: As I said, it happens.
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Jtabo
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Phaneuf Haters turning to the "why would Calgary give him up for peanuts if he is so good?" This is such a silly arguement. They were really thin on forward, and had Bouwmeester, Regher, Giordano, still on D even with Phaneuf gone. They thought at the time the trade improved their hockey club. Ask Calgary management if they would do that deal again today? That answer is a guaranteed no. Lost of star players have been moved over the years for next to nothing. Patrick Roy anyone?
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Thought of him. He was traded a few years ago now and he's clearly developed since leaving Calgary. The Flames were also looking for depth in the trade, which is usually a recipe for disaster. The Thornton trade is another good example of what happens when you do that.
Jtabo
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Exactly, I don't understand how this can be a relevant arguement against Dion...seems more like a troll to me.
Are you really relying on what you think Calgary thought of him to make the argument that he isn't good/deserving/whatever? How the hell does that hold any weight compared to watching him for the past 3 seasons?
I'm pretty sure I remember Burke saying that he he had made a list of defensemen he was interested in acquiring and called every the GM who had each of those players and earlier in the season he was told by Sutter that Phaneuf was not available. Later in the seaosn Burke said that he heard Dion was available from another GM, not by Sutter. He then called Sutter and they started putting the deal together.
The Apologist
Apologizing for Leaf garbage since 1979
I don't know, Boston is pretty happy with Rask, and he was acquired for next to nothing....
TMLife*
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Phaneuf is WELL worth his contract. If he weren't here for an extended period everyone would be crying themselves to sleep. If his play continues I'd have no problem giving him a 6.5-7 mil per year contract next year.
Diatomic
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Same thing with Tlusty, Carolina's enjoying him and we have nothing to show for it
Anth93
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His playoff performance could probably go down as one of the worst ever. Semin-like.
The fact he wasn't hurt boggles my mind. He looked like he forgot how to skate and had zero intentions of doing anything other than slop around the ice.
Otherwise, he's great/terrific/awesome and all that stuff. He's a #2 offensive D. Anyone who thinks he's a defensive minutes eater in the mold of Chara is out to lunch *Ahem Carlyle*.
The fact he wasn't hurt boggles my mind. He looked like he forgot how to skate and had zero intentions of doing anything other than slop around the ice.
Otherwise, he's great/terrific/awesome and all that stuff. He's a #2 offensive D. Anyone who thinks he's a defensive minutes eater in the mold of Chara is out to lunch *Ahem Carlyle*.
Im pretty sure that's the general consensus on this board. Phaneuf is good but overused by a litle bit. Our most pressing need this off season is getting a guy who can relieve Dion of a few minutes a night. His play will improve for sure.
if phaneuf was paired with an actual top pairing defenseman i think he would be in norris contention.
its like when kessel first got here and we had him on a line with crabb and stajan. what did you want kessel to do. you put him with some linemates and all of a sudden he is a ppg winger.
you cant put your top pairing defensman with an ahl partner and expect him to put up 25+ min a night against toughest competition, play pk and pp and have to cover for his defensive partner.
if nonis could ever find him a seabrook like partner i think phaneuf would show a lot of people ho valuable he really is.
its like when kessel first got here and we had him on a line with crabb and stajan. what did you want kessel to do. you put him with some linemates and all of a sudden he is a ppg winger.
you cant put your top pairing defensman with an ahl partner and expect him to put up 25+ min a night against toughest competition, play pk and pp and have to cover for his defensive partner.
if nonis could ever find him a seabrook like partner i think phaneuf would show a lot of people ho valuable he really is.
Al14
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Penguins are just taking the league instruction to TANK way too seriously! Much too obvious!!!
Yeah.... I'm not sure anyone would agree with any of your points. The fact that he puts up top 10 numbers doesn't mean anything, or the fact that he has the most defensive zone starts against the toughest competition. Just cause you think people are "out to lunch" because it's not your opinion doesn't make you any less wrong.
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