Some of us have been comparing both players over the sum total of their entire three years. Others who don't like how that works out for them are trying to make it an argument about individual years.
No...this isn't about individual years. This is about posters like yourself arguing from both sides of the fence about prospect development.
You're directly comparing a player who is four years younger to an established player in the league...while COMPLETELY ignoring two other pieces in the deal.
So compare year to year and it's virtually a toss up.
Then add Doug Hamilton to the equation. And Jared Knight.
Disgusting trade and im not at all surprised to find eyeball11 trying to argue against simple logic and basic mathematical laws such as the number 3 being greater than 1.
If I wired you $20 can you come up with a compelling story about how water isn't wet? I'd like to see what you come up with.
It's a classic technique of certain posters whereby they try to confuse and distract from the actual argument.
What is the actual argument eyeball11? Please tell us. Because it seems like when a thread goes in a direction that you don't feel comfortable with, you start attacking the poster and use rhetoric rather than the content of the post (that being the double standard of Kadri and Seguin and their development curves).
Let me guess...Kessel (26) is a better player than Seguin (21) right?
Stunning revelation....a player drafted four years ahead of another guy is more polished. Absolutely enthralling. I never would have expected that.
So if this Kessel guy is as good as you say he is, I assume he wins games for the Leafs right?
Right? Because if he is as good a player as you suggest he is (probably top 5 in the league according to eyeball11) he no doubt helps the Leafs a great deal in winning games.
With Kessel the Franchise -> 2nd last and 9th last which gave Boston the 2nd overall pick, 9th overall pick, and 32nd overall pick
Goodness me, imagine if we didn't have Kessel the Franchise?
We would have done worse....
Might have drafted Hall and Huberdeau?
What would it have cost today for a team to move from 9th overall to 3rd overall?
Probably a metric tonne.
Add that to the cost of acquiring Kessel.
Embarrassing trade. But only a really special kind of Leaf fan would argue otherwise.
The latest tangent has been trying to ignore the 3 year comparison and rather deflect the discussion to Kadri (as though 2nd overall and 7th overall are comparable in their normal development paths). Heck the mere notion of it is doubly stupid given its attempt is to yet again change the argument from "how Kessel and Seguin compare at the same age and with the same number of seasons" to "Seguin is finished his development".
When the entire scope of your argument comes down to comparing PPG's over the first three years, you should reconsider entirely what you think you know about hockey...and management....and pretty much everything.
One has to love people who create their own arguments and then argue against themselves, declare themselves "right" and better yet declare everyone hypocrites.
Everyone has seen the arguments pumping Kadri and bashing Seguin here.
At least try to be honest.
I'll make it easy for you guys:
NO ONE THINKS SEGUIN'S DEVELOPMENT IS FINISHED.
NO ONE THINKS KESSEL'S DEVELOPMENT IS FINISHED.
TO DATE (BY THE SAME AGE), WITH MONEY ON THE LINE, KESSEL HAS BY FAR CONTRIBUTED MORE TO HIS TEAM.
No need to run around creating strawmen or fighting windmills.
Kessel's development is over. Seguin and Kadri's are not.
I mean Seguin isn't even playing his natural position....similar to how Kadri was treated actually.
Kessel is relied upon far more than the Bruins rely on Seguin.
I'm sure the Bruins could have coached Seguin into being a perimeter player but I think they want bigger and better things out of him. May have something to do with why the Bruins make the Stanley Cup finals playing their game vs. playing their game + accommodating Kessel's style and not achieving any success...