Boston Bruins Did The Bruins Make A Blunder In Barstool Partnership?

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BigGoalBrad

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Meh their niche is being on the periphery and controversy/negative attention is what they crave the worst thing for their branding would be to be considered another espn and “sellouts.” I’m sure they are thrilled with how this has played out.
 

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Let's not pretend that nearly every major media outlet doesn't have skeletons in their closet.

I mean, the first face I saw on NBC's coverage the other night was that of accused serial sexual harasser Mike Tirico. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything anyone with Barstool has done that's worse than what Tirico's been accused of.
 

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Let's not pretend that nearly every major media outlet doesn't have skeletons in their closet.

I mean, the first face I saw on NBC's coverage the other night was that of accused serial sexual harasser Mike Tirico. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything anyone with Barstool has done that's worse than what Tirico's been accused of.

Or Matt Lauer for that matter.
 

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I can't remember ever reading barstool, and I get the impression that they're all fratboy *****es.

That said, I'm way more offended by the arrogance of deadspin, acting like some kind of morality police, than anything that Portnoy has ever done.

that's how i feel. deadspin constantly brings up awful things people said from 7 years ago (although in Barstools case they are still saying awful things now), but when you bring up the abhorrent shit they did 7 years ago they go "no it's ok because We've Changed"
 

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I was a very early Barstool reader and then hated them after they put a girl I was seeing up as a “smokeshow” after her friends sent them in pics (humble brag, I know). In hindsight I don’t give a crap i was 21 years old and insecure. Anyways, I don’t really pay attention to them anymore because I just don’t have time.

BUT, two of their podcasts are incredible:
1. Spittin Chiclets - an absolute must if you are a hockey fan
2) Pardon my take

Funny thing is I only access these barstool content through Spotify podcasts so don’t visit site often.

All of that said, this outrage culture needs to stop. It’s an absolute joke. I’m happy barstool partnered with Bruins and I’m happy the Bruins did not submit to all of this PC bull crap
 

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I dunno, it's risky given the current culture and you're stuck taking the bad (Portnoy in general annoys the hell out of me, I guess that's his point) with the good (The aforementioned Spittin Chiclets). I dislike Barstool Sports more than I like them and really only tune in if a Bruin is on SC, otherwise it's a site I avoid because yeah, the sexism and edgy humor is old to me. Maybe I'm just burnt out.
 

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Love Barstool Sports. Spittin' Chiclets is a great podcast. Don't give own ounce of f***s about this.

Just more of the same from the whiny :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: on the internet. Wah! Wah! Wah!
 

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that's how i feel. deadspin constantly brings up awful things people said from 7 years ago (although in Barstools case they are still saying awful things now), but when you bring up the abhorrent **** they did 7 years ago they go "no it's ok because We've Changed"

My face when deadspin tries to shame other sites for abhorrent things they did 7 years ago

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Used to love Barstool back when it was still a paper, still visit it every now and then. As others have said, "Spittin Chiclets" is phenomenal as a podcast if you're a hockey fan.

I get why people hate Barstool, and it's totally legitimate to do so. There's a lot of nonsense that went on with them, and still continues to do so, mainly from the readers. However, even as someone who doesn't care about them any longer, I find it hard to give a f*** about them sponsoring a towel.

People really need to focus their energy on things that actually matter. Towel sponsors are not it.
 

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All of that said, this outrage culture needs to stop. It’s an absolute joke. I’m happy barstool partnered with Bruins and I’m happy the Bruins did not submit to all of this PC bull crap

I always find this interesting, what I’ve found is we don’t have a good clear definition of what this means anymore. What is PC? Do we paint with a broad stroke or go case by case? Is it broad yet simple or pointed and complex?

In regards to what I’ve seen in this argument, I dont consider not sexually harassing women to be “PC” (at least with what ive come to know the term used for) I just consider it being a decent human being. I’ve always thought of “politically correct” as just learning about how people want to be treated and using empathy to learn these things and practice them.

But I definitely agree that it’s a serious problem these days that a) people are way too quick to point the finger and pretend like they’re perfect b) seem to get off on completely ruining people’s lives just because they made a mistake in the past c) play by two sets of rules; where they are so concerned about creating safe spaces for certain people, being kind all that and then treat people that honestly just need to be educated super viciously and therefor end up just driving them away and d) there’s a problem in business culture where we are forced to give “gentle reminders” and beat around the bush about everything because people can’t take constructive criticism. For example; I once had to attend a meeting because I told a colleague not to use their phone inappropriately in a super passive and non instrusive and on display way - a rule that’s clearly already stated prior to employment - solely because this person felt infantilized and had their feelings hurt (and honestly I couldn’t have been more nice about it in the first place)


Comedy is tricky. I’ve heard some comics say EVERYTHING should be on limits and some day some things are off limits

I think one mark of a great comedian is being able to talk about extremely edgy topics and still make them funny but most importantly, their jokes are a protest/advocacy for that thing in the first place. Satirizing how f***ed up it is. John Oliver is really good at this, for example

But I think if you’re just making jokes to mock something, when those people are suffering, and then add in a layer of you’ve never experienced it adding to the callousness of it all, that’s something that deserves a lot of criticism. I’m not into silencing people who say they are suffering. I’d rather listen and know what data supports it to further back it up.

We’ve seen a lot of things get put under the spotlight in recent years and honestly most of it’s been good, it hasn’t been pretty, but it’s been important. There’s definitely going to be some that hitch their wagon to it and abuse it, there will be liars, there will be people that misconstrue their hurt feelings with real systemic oppression, and it’s important to keep the dialogue up because ultimately we need to leave a better world for our kids.

I don’t want little girls growing up in a world where they’re silenced and told to act lady like and be respectful while boys are just being boys, oh he’s mean because he likes you, he touched you because he likes you, he kissed you because he likes you, he put his hand up your skirt because he likes you, you should be grateful for the attention, you should just smile and make him happy. And that’s exactly the kind of culture barstool often promotes and mocks with no shame what so ever
 
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It does surprise me that the Bruins chose to partner with them. They’re not exactly a “family friendly” organization.

What it comes down to is I don’t really feel the need to have an opinion on this. If that’s what the Bruins marketing department decided to do, so be it. I really don’t care.
 

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I always find this interesting, what I’ve found is we don’t have a good clear definition of what this means anymore. What is PC? Do we paint with a broad stroke or go case by case? Is it broad yet simple or pointed and complex?

In regards to what I’ve seen in this argument, I dont consider not sexually harassing women to be “PC” (at least with what ive come to know the term used for) I just consider it being a decent human being. I’ve always thought of “politically correct” as just learning about how people want to be treated and using empathy to learn these things and practice them.

But I definitely agree that it’s a serious problem these days that a) people are way too quick to point the finger and pretend like they’re perfect b) seem to get off on completely ruining people’s lives just because they made a mistake in the past c) play by two sets of rules; where they are so concerned about creating safe spaces for certain people, being kind all that and then treat people that honestly just need to be educated super viciously and therefor end up just driving them away and d) there’s a problem in business culture where we are forced to give “gentle reminders” and beat around the bush about everything because people can’t take constructive criticism. For example; I once had to attend a meeting because I told a colleague not to use their phone inappropriately in a super passive and non instrusive and on display way - a rule that’s clearly already stated prior to employment - solely because this person felt infantilized and had their feelings hurt (and honestly I couldn’t have been more nice about it in the first place)


Comedy is tricky. I’ve heard some comics say EVERYTHING should be on limits and some day some things are off limits

I think one mark of a great comedian is being able to talk about extremely edgy topics and still make them funny but most importantly, their jokes are a protest/advocacy for that thing in the first place. Satirizing how ****ed up it is. John Oliver is really good at this, for example

But I think if you’re just making jokes to mock something, when those people are suffering, and then add in a layer of you’ve never experienced it adding to the callousness of it all, that’s something that deserves a lot of criticism. I’m not into silencing people who say they are suffering. I’d rather listen and know what data supports it to further back it up.

We’ve seen a lot of things get put under the spotlight in recent years and honestly most of it’s been good, it hasn’t been pretty, but it’s been important. There’s definitely going to be some that hitch their wagon to it and abuse it, there will be liars, there will be people that misconstrue their hurt feelings with real systemic oppression, and it’s important to keep the dialogue up because ultimately we need to leave a better world for our kids.

I don’t want little girls growing up in a world where they’re silenced and told to act lady like and be respectful while boys are just being boys, oh he’s mean because he likes you, he touched you because he likes you, he kissed you because he likes you, he put his hand up your skirt because he likes you, you should be grateful for the attention, you should just smile and make him happy. And that’s exactly the kind of culture barstool often promotes and mocks with no shame what so ever
I’ve heard Joe Rogan talk about a joke that Phil Hartman (I think it was him not 100% sure) told at the height of the Andrea Yates case in 2001. He said something along the lines of “I heard they were bad kids, they didn’t put their blocks away....” forget the rest, but Rogan said that joke killed at the Comedy Store.

If you can make people laugh at a tragic situation like that then nothing should be off limits in comedy, it’s really all about the skill and execution of the comedian.
 

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Portnoy really built an empire from nothing.

I noticed that the Bruins pushed away some long-time advertisers on the ribbons to sell time to the new casino.

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I’ve heard Joe Rogan talk about a joke that Phil Hartman (I think it was him not 100% sure) told at the height of the Andrea Yates case in 2001. He said something along the lines of “I heard they were bad kids, they didn’t put their blocks away....” forget the rest, but Rogan said that joke killed at the Comedy Store.

If you can make people laugh at a tragic situation like that then nothing should be off limits in comedy, it’s really all about the skill and execution of the comedian.

I love dark humor, and can run the risk of being an "edgelord" at times.


I absolutely hate when people use the phrases "punching up" and "punching down" when describing comedy, because those terms have been co-opted by a certain proportion of bloggers and tweeters to try to gatekeep what things can be funny or not. I think there's a distinction in the ways comedy and those jokes work: There's an extent to which jokes that play on controversial subjects (be it a "too soon" take on a tragedy, race, gender, etc) can be hilarious precisely because they're touching on something that is taboo, and laughing at it is cathartic release of the way we repress a lot of things in a well-meaning attempt to be respectful to society. But then there are those who hit them very bluntly for no reason other than to bash and mock people. I think good comedians know the difference and can navigate that (even if their critics often miss the point).
 
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I read the latter article when it came out.

I used to pick up Barstool when it was a paper. Hey, it was free.

The man in question is a scumbag. As John Keller said on Beat the Press, one day his provocations will lead a loser fanboy to violence, etc.

No thanks.
 

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I love dark humor, and can run the risk of being an "edgelord" at times.


I absolutely hate when people use the phrases "punching up" and "punching down" when describing comedy, because those terms have been co-opted by a certain proportion of bloggers and tweeters to try to gatekeep what things can be funny or not. I think there's a distinction in the ways comedy and those jokes work: There's an extent to which jokes that play on controversial subjects (be it a "too soon" take on a tragedy, race, gender, etc) can be hilarious precisely because they're touching on something that is taboo, and laughing at it is cathartic release of the way we repress a lot of things in a well-meaning attempt to be respectful to society. But then there are those who hit them very bluntly for no reason other than to bash and mock people. I think good comedians know the difference and can navigate that (even if their critics often miss the point).
Well put McGarnagle. I also have a pretty dark sense of humor and nothing irks me more than when someone says something like “good comedy always punches up.”

Good comedy punches in whatever way it pleases, always punching up is boring and predictable.
 
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Going with the original question...nah, I don't think the Bruins made a huge blunder. They got money. People are still going to go to games. In a month or so, this will blow over, and nobody will remember. It's not going to hurt their brand - people are still going to go to games.

From the other side, they got WAY more recognition than a standard rally towel sponsor. Free advertising out the wazoo. Honestly, I couldn't tell you who the 8 sponsors are on the ice, or who's on the boards, or who's on the two wraparounds - but I do know who sponsored the stupid rags. (Seriously, JJ. WE WANT T SHIRTS!!!) And, considering their brand is "any publicity is good publicity", it's going to work with the 18-30 crowd that they cater to.

As far as the brand and the fans, I'll just say this: If you're attracting a lot of flies, you have to ask yourself if you're a turd. Would I rather that Plymouth Assurance (Plymouth Assurance: Insurance for your ass!) was the sponsor? Yeah. Higher ups got the message and were asked about it, and gave a "no comment" - probably to avoid any blowback and to appease OTHER sponsors who don't want the Bruins commenting on their sponsorship deals. My impression is that it's a one-off - I don't see them replacing the Spoked B in center ice with a new logo any time soon.
 
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If deadspin doesn’t want the Bruins to pursue sponsors they should cut a check for the towels themselves.
 
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I read the latter article when it came out.

I used to pick up Barstool when it was a paper. Hey, it was free.

The man in question is a *******. As John Keller said on Beat the Press, one day his provocations will lead a loser fanboy to violence, etc.

No thanks.

Yeah I very much don’t see that happening and that’s the exact kind of baseless hyperbole I’m talking about from those that don’t like them
 
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