Devils team discussion (news, notes and speculation) - 2023-24 season part II

[mort4345]

Since certain posters live and die by this playoffs odds generator. Here is the latest

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Playoff odds at this point are immaterial. If they keep leaking goals like a sieve it won't matter if they make the playoffs or not at this point. And if the Devils turn it around (make some moves?) and start playing like last year's pace, they'll make the playoffs. Other than two or three teams in the East, the rest of the conference is a jumbled mess right now.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Cheddabombs]

I thought our first game back was today and everyone here just gave up lol

 

[NjDevsRR]

Playoff odds at this point are immaterial. If they keep leaking goals like a sieve it won't matter if they make the playoffs or not at this point. And if the Devils turn it around (make some moves?) and start playing like last year's pace, they'll make the playoffs. Other than two or three teams in the East, the rest of the conference is a jumbled mess right now.

Folks, I also hate these playoff odds generators. I was just razzing a certain someone as they use it as gospel lol

 

[Guadana]

Schmid could potentially get hot again.

Vitek could potentially get hot too……….on another team. Too much of that nutcase down the stretch probably means no playoffs.

But with how horrible he’s been on the season, it’s obvious he’s due for some luck and has had luck on his side lately. Which is evidenced by guys missing wide open nets on him (Perron twice last game? Worthless Huberdeau twice in Calgary?) and a bunch of post hits in games where he only allows 2 goals, especially lately.

Im not a believer Schmid can be regular full starter for play off. May be a series, but not a starter until the end. Two back to backs against Sharks and Ducks show something. May be later, but now we cant just trust him in this case. AT least we need to find good goalie for rotation.

 

[Guadana]

none of these playoff models are any reason to panic in my opinion. there are too many variables and streaks and outliers within a season that just relying on a predictive model is useless.

i think the recent proliferation of these as a social media talking point is just to promote engagement and likes, but there’s no inherent value in saying a team has a 65% chance of making the playoffs after 25 games but 50% after 30 games when there’s 4 points separating 4 playoff spots and 50+ games to play

Yeah I can’t imagine what the model is. If hypothetically you had enough big data points from 30 years or more of seasons to feed into a computer and asked it to find statistical correlations without any prejudices at all, the results could be interesting. But I very much doubt that is the sort of inquiry behind this.

Is Camille the Eel some kind of anagram of Call me Al? Or vice versa? Is there some kind of mystery here?

 

[Camille the Eel]

Is Camille the Eel some kind of anagram of Call me Al? Or vice versa? Is there some kind of mystery here?

Nyah not at all. Camille Henry, one time hockey player of some accomplishments, eventually (after retirement) owned or managed a couple of ice rinks in North Jersey before there was much or any ice around in the immediate region.

 

[Guadana]

Nyah not at all. Camille Henry, one time hockey player of some accomplishments, eventually (after retirement) owned or managed a couple of ice rinks in North Jersey before there was much or any ice around in the immediate region.

Local hockey hero!

 

[glenwo2]

Shooting - 69

 

[Camille the Eel]

Local hockey hero!

obscure perhaps these days - he was slender and shifty around the net, a master of tipping pucks and scoring down low, and thus the nickname “the Eel.” Have little idea why I chide this when I joined the board, except that I had a player named after him on a fantasy team I had with a neighbor as a kid.

 

[billingtons ghost]

The last game gives me hope, bc I think we actually played the majority of the game well.

It's going to come down to whether the forward lines gel enough, and are sufficiently decent in all three zones such that Lindy leaves then together long enough to develop some chemistry.

And if the young Dmen simplify the game and cut out the mistakes, and don't hit a wall.

That, and having a goalie not experience those complete dumpster fire, confidence ruining games that seem to happen every three games it's so.

That said, I don't think we have the right personnel at the right point in their careers yet. Even Marino and Siegs are wet behind the ears and they are the best we've got.

Can't rely on third pair vet plugs Smith/miller to be this team's anchormen on D and expect to win.

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Have to say I like the new McCloud line.

 

[Camille the Eel]

Triple M line or M and Ms line or 3m line

 

[forceten]

Daws called up? Interesting

 

[Nubmer6]

Triple M line or M and Ms line or 3m line

The Mmmmmmm..... line?

Maybe I added a few too many "m"s

 

[MitchMurphy]

The Mmmmmmm..... line?

Maybe I added a few too many "m"s

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[NjDevsRR]

Have to say I like the new McCloud line.

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Devs3cups]

 

[Guttersniped]

Daws was 8th on Elite Prospects Top 15 Goalie Prospects. (Goalies had a separate rankings from the 150 top Skaters & only players who still qualified for the Calder were considered prospects.)

He was 3rd after Luke and Nemec on our Prospect Pool list so they’re pretty high on him.

Some people may look at Nico Daws’ 2022-23 season as a step back. He did not receive the NHL playing time that he had the year prior, but he did take on added responsibility at the AHL level. At only 22-years-old, there is still plenty of room for development, especially when it comes to areas like situational awareness and positioning.

Despite a few rough spells, Daws still showed off his excellent technical foundation. He doesn’t get too wide in his stance, which gives him quick access to his edges. He’s able to display aggressiveness when necessary by quickly exploding into position and becoming set. He routinely beats passes on his feet and gives away a little net if given the time. He cuts pucks off constantly with his hands, which is a great skill to have combined with his large size.

Plays that develop quickly off the rush can still cause him to rush his setup. He can be flustered by an unexpected bounce, and shooters with a sneaky shot release can catch him by surprise. These are mostly things that can be corrected by collecting experience at the highest level possible. With the crease situation in New Jersey becoming increasingly loaded, it will be interesting to keep an eye on what happens when Daws inevitably outgrows the AHL.

Elite Prospect Ranking System:

Spoiler: The other goalies cards for comparison

1st Tier (According to me, going by FV TIER)
#2 in BUF (#8 pool)

#1 in CGY (#18 pool)

#4 in ANA (#2 pool)

2nd Tier
#2 in MIN (#7 pool)

#1 in NSH (#10 pool)

#2 in TOR (#25 pool)

3rd Tier
#2 in CAR (#15 pool)

#3 in NJD (#12 pool)

#5 in DET (#5 pool)

#3 in NYR (#21 pool)

#5 in VAN (#20 pool)

#3 in ARI (#6 pool)

#9 in CHI (#1 pool)

#5 in STL (#15 pool)

4th Tier
#2 in TBL (#32 pool)

Honorable Mentions
#4 in PHI (#4 pool)

#4 in DAL (#19 pool)

#3 in VGK (#29 pool)

#2 in LAK (#23 pool)

 

[njdevils1982]

Triple M line or M and Ms line or 3m line

The Mmmmmmm..... line?

Maybe I added a few too many "m"s

duh. it's our hanson brothers line

"puttin on the foil......every game......want some?"

 

[Nubmer6]

duh. it's our hanson brothers line

"puttin on the foil......every game......want some?"

You did *NOT* just post a video of that song, did you? No. No NO NO.

 

[Bleedred]

If that's the case then give Daws a run like it's 2022 again.

Of course, if he's not doing so well, which happened in 2022 when he was playing almost every single game, then by all means please do not play him that much.

But they need to give him some rope. I can't think of many games where Vitek played well where the team didn't play exceptionally well themselves. At least Schmid had that game against Seattle. Vitek's only legit really good game, where the team did not play well was opening night against Detroit. That was his best performance this season IMO.

 

[njdevils1982]

You did *NOT* just post a video of that song, did you? No. No NO NO.

do i need to pull my menudo explosion LP out of my collection?