GDT: Devils@Canes

[Daeavorn]

I agree with you 100% but the problem is RBA is going to give that line Top 6 ice time and not truly play it as a checking line.

I hope that he tries to balance the time out a little more. Maybe Nino can start scoring with Necas and Haula? Maybe Williams can help Dzingel start scoring? Or maybe he is trying to put some defense conscious forwards on every line?

He knows we need more scoring so I hope you are wrong here.

 

[My Special Purpose]

James Reimer is 6-0-1 in 2020.
Petr Mrazek is 2-7-0 in 2020.

Someone present this information to RB and tell him to stop acting like a ****ing moron.

Some guys in this org have to be thinking "what do I have to do?"

 

[Chrispy]

I agree with you 100% but the problem is RBA is going to give that line Top 6 ice time and not truly play it as a checking line.

I think he will use them as a checking line, but a checking line with significant ice time.

But I don't see that line used for offensive zone faceoffs. Every other line makes more sense in an offensive zone start. Including Gardiner-Slavin-Pesce.

 

[Svechhammer]

Some guys in this org have to be thinking "what do I have to do?"

We literally had to trade Faulk for Brindy to stop using him as our primary PP QB. We might have to do the same to Mrazek, because at this point, its just stupidity. At a certain point, results have to matter, regardless of the eye test. In 2 fewer games played this calendar year, Reimer has 4 more wins than Mrazek. The team simply plays better when he's in net. Stop overthinking this.

And putting McGinn and Foegele with Staal only to play them 2nd line minutes is suicidal if your goal is to win the game. I just don't get it anymore. There is no way that line should be slotted that high, and yet.... Once again, results have to matter.

 

[AD Skinner]

Mcginn Staal foegele is a great 4th line

 

[GoldiFox]

Starting Mrazek is flat stupid. Why, just why? If the Canes lose tonight against New Jersey and it is even remotely on Mrazek then he shouldn't start another game all year.

 

[GoldiFox]

We literally had to trade Faulk for Brindy to stop using him as our primary PP QB. We might have to do the same to Mrazek, because at this point, its just stupidity. At a certain point, results have to matter, regardless of the eye test. In 2 fewer games played this calendar year, Reimer has 4 more wins than Mrazek. The team simply plays better when he's in net. Stop overthinking this.

And putting McGinn and Foegele with Staal only to play them 2nd line minutes is suicidal if your goal is to win the game. I just don't get it anymore. There is no way that line should be slotted that high, and yet.... Once again, results have to matter.

Sticking the 4th line together and letting Rod give them 2nd line minutes is just how it has to be. At least Jordan won't be sucking the life out of TT or Svechnikov. Every other forward on the team is better off playing with quality for fewer minutes than quantity with Staal.

 

[Lucky Lindy]

f***ing Metro-team... Loss probably.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Starting Mrazek is flat stupid. Why, just why? If the Canes lose tonight against New Jersey and it is even remotely on Mrazek then he shouldn't start another game all year.

Rod is really rolling the dice on this goalie thing isn't he. You do you, I guess, but you can throw every excuse in the book at the Mrazek vs Reimer argument and at the end of the day only one is getting consistent Ws. I think I'd be trusting that single stat alone at this point. If the team sucks defensively in front of Mrazek more than Reimer, then who gives a f*** why that is the case at this point.

I'm sure Mrazek will have a shutout of course and Rod will come out smelling like roses.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Canes have two games this weekend.

Devils: 52 points, 2.79 gpg
Oilers: 66 points, 3.19 gpg

It’s not a mystery as to why Mrazek is starting the first of these. If he plays both, THEN get pissed.

 

[MinJaBen]

Starting Mrazek is flat stupid. Why, just why? If the Canes lose tonight against New Jersey and it is even remotely on Mrazek then he shouldn't start another game all year.

Sure. But when the guy holding the leash of a dangerous dog decides to let it go into a crowd, do you just blame the dog?

 

[The Faulker 27]

Canes have two games this weekend.

Devils: 52 points, 2.79 gpg
Oilers: 66 points, 3.19 gpg

It’s not a mystery as to why Mrazek is starting the first of these. If he plays both, THEN get pissed.

Why can't Reimer play in both, it's not a B2B? I mean that's an honest question. I feel like he's earned at least a string of games as our starter. See how that goes and then decide if you want to go back to the 1A/1B scenario.

 

[MinJaBen]

Canes have two games this weekend.

Devils: 52 points, 2.79 gpg
Oilers: 66 points, 3.19 gpg

It’s not a mystery as to why Mrazek is starting the first of these. If he plays both, THEN get pissed.

Ok, but the second team will be missing two of their primary players and Rod knows this now. And be on the road. And be on a back to back. I think I'm inclined to try the opposite. Or more accurately, play James both games as he gets a day in between.

 

[GoldiFox]

Canes have two games this weekend.

Devils: 52 points, 2.79 gpg
Oilers: 66 points, 3.19 gpg

It’s not a mystery as to why Mrazek is starting the first of these. If he plays both, THEN get pissed.

Oilers*

* minus McDavid and Kassian

Canes finish the year with 6 back-to-backs in 6 weekends. There will be a time for Mrazek to be forced into games but it isn't now.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Why can't Reimer play in both, it's not a B2B? I mean that's an honest question. I feel like he's earned at least a string of games as our starter. See how that goes and then decide if you want to go back to the 1A/1B scenario.

Opening the lens a little wider, the next time the Canes play a team worse than NJ is 3/10... nearly a month.

Even if we want to call Reimer a pure starter (which... I think that’s premature given the very streaky season he’s having) playing the Devils at home with them on a B2B is as much of a “backup” game as we have left this season.

Mrazek should play this game. He should not play Sunday, regardless of his performance tonight.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I mean sure, Dzingel hasn't been great, but he still has like 8G-29PTS compared to Black-Hole McGinn. Sure McGinn-Staal-Foegele can't be anchors to Aho/TT/Svech, but we also know RBA will play them 2nd line ice time (instead of 4th) because he's obsessed over "his guys". Like we saw, we had to trade Faulk for Doogie to get PP time despite him obviously (to everyone else) being better and more productive in limited stints. This year it's Staal and Mrazek getting the long leashes despite there being obviously better options available (I'd rather have Wallmark or Haula at 2C at this point). Want to send a message? BENCH YOUR "CAPTAIN" who has neither been leading by example or motivation. This team has been playing just like it was the last time a Staal wore the C honestly

 

[Joe McGrath]

I agree with you 100% but the problem is RBA is going to give that line Top 6 ice time and not truly play it as a checking line.

A checking line that matches up the opponents top line plays as much as the opponents top line. That’s kind of how that works.....

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Jordo hat trick and Mrazek shutout incoming

 

[MinJaBen]

Opening the lens a little wider, the next time the Canes play a team worse than NJ is 3/10... nearly a month.

Even if we want to call Reimer a pure starter (which... I think that’s premature given the very streaky season he’s having) playing the Devils at home with them on a B2B is as much of a “backup” game as we have left this season.

Mrazek should play this game. He should not play Sunday, regardless of his performance tonight.

The next time Mrazek should play is when we are in a playoff position and our loss plus other teams wins doesn't push us out of one, or a true back to back where James gets lit up.

Reasons.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The next time Mrazek should play is when we are in a playoff position and our loss plus other teams wins doesn't push us out of one, or a true back to back where James gets lit up.

Reasons.

Goalie schedules have to be managed carefully. It’s just the way of things. There’s a reason most of them get significantly worse after a few consecutive starts.

If our purpose is to make the playoffs, not just bubble up for a few days in February and then implode, we need to NOT ride Reimer until he breaks and then go back to an ice-cold Mrazek in a panic. We need to do right by both of them and set them both up for success — managing Reimer’s load and giving Mrazek chances to play his way back.

If in fact we decide that we really want to ride Reimer until he breaks, we should at least use those appearances in games where the goaltending edge is manifestly important. “At home against the Devils on a B2B“ is a scenario that we should be able to win with Nedeljkovic in net.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I vote for doing away with goalies. I'm tired of their bullshit.

 

[hblueridgegal]

I mean sure, Dzingel hasn't been great, but he still has like 8G-29PTS compared to Black-Hole McGinn. Sure McGinn-Staal-Foegele can't be anchors to Aho/TT/Svech, but we also know RBA will play them 2nd line ice time (instead of 4th) because he's obsessed over "his guys".

Hasn't one of the complaints been that the team isn't fully buying into what the coach is selling...well no wonder. Favoritism aside, some of this decision making is out there and sort of has an erratic, panicky vibe to it of late. It doesn't instill a lot of confidence.

On the Coach's podcast, RBA admitted that he doesn't really take the suggestions provided by stat guys. In fact, he said he fights with them about it. Which kinda creates an interesting situation, given that our roster selections and trades are often driven by players' underlying metrics...not gut feelings.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Goalie schedules have to be managed carefully. It’s just the way of things. There’s a reason most of them get significantly worse after a few consecutive starts.

If our purpose is to make the playoffs, not just bubble up for a few days in February and then implode, we need to NOT ride Reimer until he breaks and then go back to an ice-cold Mrazek in a panic. We need to do right by both of them and set them both up for success — managing Reimer’s load and giving Mrazek chances to play his way back.

If in fact we decide that we really want to ride Reimer until he breaks, we should at least use those appearances in games where the goaltending edge is manifestly important. “At home against the Devils on a B2B“ is a scenario that we should be able to win with Nedeljkovic in net.

Reimer has played 3 games in the last 28 days. I’d say he’s been managed carefully enough at this point.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Reimer has played 3 games in the last 28 days. I’d say he’s been managed carefully enough at this point.

Having an ASG break isn’t “management”, it’s not like Mrazek was playing instead.

There is an actual cost to giving a goalie additional starts over a 9-week period in the home stretch. There’s simply no reason to incur that cost in this game of all games.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Having an ASG break isn’t “management”, it’s not like Mrazek was playing instead.

There is an actual cost to giving a goalie additional starts over a 9-week period in the home stretch. There’s simply no reason to incur that cost in this game of all games.

There’s also an actual cost to starting a goalie who has won 2 of his last 9 starts twice in a row. It’s called losing games. They’ve got back to back games every weekend from next week through the rest of the season. Mrazek is going to play plenty.