Devils 2019-20 team discussion (news, notes and speculation) in limbo part II

[NJDevs26]

It makes my heart happy that Sutter flamed out in Calgary after the duplicitious way he left and never really wanting to be here to begin with.

 

[The 29th Pick]

remember when we hired Sutter, all that talk of after coaching he'll probably replace Lou as GM and it was such a big deal round these parts lol

 

[The 29th Pick]

Looking back on it, Sutter was one of the worst coaches we’ve had.

He leaned on Madden and Pandolfo so hard in that series and both were bad by that point, especially Pandolfo.

He gave them a ton of minutes in game 5 (so we could win 1-0) and game 7.

plus he didnt like Elias (or European players in general) waddadick

 

[JrFischer54]

Yes, he definitely choked away game 4 when he was bumped into by a Canes player with seconds left in the regulation and his massive choke in game 6 when we got shutout.

lol Just stop it with the bump. I was mad just like everyone else after 12 years I can say that didn’t have an effect on him making a save. Yeah the devils did get shut out in game 6 but they also could’ve used a Marty stand on your head series clincher road win but they didn’t get it

 

[JrFischer54]

LMAO. The dude literally won more games than any other goalie in NHL history and more importantly helped win 3 Cups, but I'm going to hold a few bad moments against him as proof he never carried the team![/QUOTE

Except I didn’t say he didn’t carry the team the entire career just post stevens nieds he didn’t.

 

[JrFischer54]

Imagine living in a world where Devils fans criticise Martin f***ing Brodeur.

I miss seeing that man lace 'em up, every single damn day.

I know it’s just like the people on here with blind faith for Lou and his past here.

it’s ok to give players criticism like broduer. He had his fair of bad playoff series and thats all I said lol.

 

[Bleedred]

lol Just stop it with the bump. I was mad just like everyone else after 12 years I can say that didn’t have an effect on him making a save. Yeah the devils did get shut out in game 6 but they also could’ve used a Marty stand on your head series clincher road win but they didn’t get it

The game 4 winner was deflected a foot in front of him. Even if he wasn’t bumped he has no chance on that goal.

The only bad goals in that series on him literally came in game 7. One in the first minute-ish and one in the last 30 seconds.

 

[Bleedred]

plus he didnt like Elias (or European players in general) waddadick

I don’t know how legit that may or may not be, but he seemed to know what he was doing until that series. Then he seemed to overload them with minutes, especially when we had a lead.

Madden and Pandolfo were done being elite shutdown guys before he even got here.

 

[glenwo2]

Marty who?

Biron, of course.

 

[Nubmer6]

Biron, of course.

Oh. I thought you guys were talking about one of the greatest puck-handling goalies of all time.

Marty Turco.

 

[Classic Devil]

My biggest knock on Marty which I’m sure people will disagree. He never really carried the team. I’m sure there were some but I don’t recall him standing on his head in a 2-1 40 save playoff game post nieds stevens. Also I don’t really ever remember him taking blame for the playoff flops. If only he could’ve been clutch against the kings we go to la up 2-0

Are you even a Devils fan? Or are you, like, under the age of 18 and only remember things that have happened since 2012?

 

[Nico Hischier]

Marty put the team on his back and carried them to the SCF at like 40 years old

 

[Brooklyndevil]

Marty is a hall of famer, however, he wasn’t always perfect. Even Mariano blew the Arizona World Series. No one is always perfect.

 

[JrFischer54]

Marty put the team on his back and carried them to the SCF at like 40 years old

Pretty sure that was kovy who did that

 

[guitarguyvic]

Pretty sure that was kovy who did that

Why do people always say this? He performed very well, but almost none of his goals were clutch. I'd say that 2012 run was a team effort, probably more propelled by how much the bottom 6/role players contributed moreso than anything the top players did individually. And also Henrique's OT heroics.

 

[None Shall Pass]

The 2012 team was Marty, Salvador, Kovy, Henrique, Zajac, the CBGB line, and everyone else; honorable mentions to Zidlicky and Poni.

 

[JrFischer54]

Why do people always say this? He performed very well, but almost none of his goals were clutch. I'd say that 2012 run was a team effort, probably more propelled by how much the bottom 6/role players contributed moreso than anything the top players did individually. And also Henrique's OT heroics.

because he was the reason that’s why. He was a force averaging almost 23mins a night. He was absolutely more responsible for the devils making the finals then Marty. No Kovy no playoff run 100%. Take your glasses off

 

[KinCornKarn]

Brodeur outplaying Lundqvist in 2012 was definitely a reason they won that series. He was also huge in game 7 against Florida.

 

[NJDevs26]

because he was the reason that’s why. He was a force averaging almost 23mins a night. He was absolutely more responsible for the devils making the finals then Marty. No Kovy no playoff run 100%. Take your glasses off

So it’s homeristic to say Marty, the fourth line, etc were the main catalysts but not homeristic to say Kovalchuk carried the team? It’s a matter of opinion, nothing more.

But complaining about and mocking homerism on a team board is basically trolling so knock it off.

 

[glenwo2]

Are some of us that bored that we are now turning on *The* Best NJ Devil of All-Time?

I'm sorry @NJDevs26 but this is aggravating and I can't wait for Hockey to resume.

 

[glenwo2]

Why do people always say this? He performed very well, but almost none of his goals were clutch. I'd say that 2012 run was a team effort, probably more propelled by how much the bottom 6/role players contributed moreso than anything the top players did individually. And also Henrique's OT heroics.

I seem to recall that the 4th line led by CARTER played a huge role in that run.

Moreso than Broken-back Kovy, too.

 

[The 29th Pick]

Are some of us that bored that we are now turning on *The* Best NJ Devil of All-Time?

I'm sorry @NJDevs26 but this is aggravating and I can't wait for Hockey to resume.

but I was gonna say Bratt

 

[NJDevs26]

Nothing really to discuss but might as well move the ATL discussion here

 

[NJDevs26]

Imagine living in a world where Devils fans criticise Martin f***ing Brodeur.

I miss seeing that man lace 'em up, every single damn day.

I mean there've ALWAYS been Devils fans that have bagged on Marty for various reasons, mainly the MB30 helmet and dictating playing time. Other than maybe Stevens is there any 'great' player that is universally loved around here? We know about Nieds' checkered history here. Elias is close to universally loved but when people claim he's not a HOF'er I'll beat them off with a stick

 

[Ripshot 43]

I seem to recall that the 4th line led by CARTER played a huge role in that run.

Moreso than Broken-back Kovy, too.

Broken - back Kovy... so is Kovy supposed to be Jack Gyllenhaal or Heath Ledger?