Devils 2019-20 team discussion (news and notes) IV

[Emperoreddy]

LOL...but at least they're maybe sorta giving Boqvist a real chance?

Yeah I am fine with trying those. Want Bratt on there too, but I am curious if these combos could work

 

[BenedictGomez]

Which is about how long it takes him to get his shot off.

And I say that as a fan who likes Severson, but he's really just not good on the PP. Which is weird given he's more of an offensive defenseman. But then some goal scorers suck at shootouts too, so I guess that's hockey for you.

The reason Severson is terrible on the powerplay isnt because he lacks some offensive skill, it's because he's a selfish player. Takes too many terrible shots for himself when he should be making the simple pass to a forward, and those terrible shots end the PP offensive zone possession.

Hynes should have realized this eons ago, but, Hynes.

 

[TBF1972]

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I see you have a new target now.

 

[glenwo2]

So any more Devils discussions here?

 

[Darkauron]

So any more Devils discussions here?

Nah. This is a thread about demons now. All of the Devils have moved on.

 

[MadDevil]

I see you have a new target now.

The owners are probably next on his hit list.

 

[glenwo2]

Nah. This is a thread about demons now. All of the Devils have moved on.

The New Jersey Demons?

I like it.

 

[Bcap88]

Jack Hughes and gusev are exciting, that’s about it

 

[theoptimist]

Don't trade Palmieri. You need veterans when the going gets tough.

 

[FooteBahl]

If we lose like tonight #WeAreTheThirty-Ones

 

[BenedictGomez]

If we lose like tonight #WeAreTheThirty-Ones

We Are The Ones, Jersey's Team, who are Relentless at losing.

 

[Devils731]

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

he said nothing in that tweet

 

[jkrdevil]

He said it’s coaching, without saying it’s coaching

 

[Davegarri]

Why does everyone always say "I like their coaches" without ever saying why or what they do well.

The media nowadays is such hot garbage, they just parrot everything and don't question or formulate their own opinions.

 

[devilsblood]

The reason Severson is terrible on the powerplay isnt because he lacks some offensive skill, it's because he's a selfish player. Takes too many terrible shots for himself when he should be making the simple pass to a forward, and those terrible shots end the PP offensive zone possession.

Hynes should have realized this eons ago, but, Hynes.

I don't think it's because he is selfish, I think it is because his skill set is more compatible with transition offense then it is to the PP.

 

[devilsblood]

He said it’s coaching, without saying it’s coaching

Or the construction of the roster, but he certainly said there appears to be a disconnect between personnel and style of play.

 

[glenwo2]

he said nothing in that tweet

Just like Mark Fraser.


But in all seriousness, I agree with @jkrdevil that he did say it was the coaching without actually saying it was the coaching.

It was implied.

 

[jkrdevil]

Or the construction of the roster, but he certainly said there appears to be a disconnect between personnel and style of play.

that’s coaching. The coaches job is to construct a system around the personnel. Coaches who have “their” system that they must play regardless of personnel are by and large bad coaches.

This isn’t a talent depleted roster so the big issue is coaching.

 

[devilsblood]

that’s coaching. The coaches job is to construct a system around the personnel. Coaches who have “their” system that they must play regardless of personnel are by and large bad coaches.

This isn’t a talent depleted roster so the big issue is coaching.

And I actually think Hynes tried to clamp it down super tight after the first two games. So he did make adjustments, but they were even more contrary to the personnel.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I don't think it's because he is selfish, I think it is because his skill set is more compatible with transition offense then it is to the PP.

This is definitely true also, but IMO there's just no doubt many nice powerplay efforts die with Severson's selfish shot-taking way too often.

The next powerplay point Severson scores will be his first of the season!

That's completely mind-boggling given how much PP time he gets.

 

[jkrdevil]

And I actually think Hynes tried to clamp it down super tight after the first two games. So he did make adjustments, but they were even more contrary to the personnel.

playing the same system, but more conservatively isn’t an adjustment

 

[Triumph]

This is definitely true also, but IMO there's just no doubt many nice powerplay efforts die with Severson's selfish shot-taking way too often.

The next powerplay point Severson scores will be his first of the season!

That's completely mind-boggling given how much PP time he gets.

The second unit hasn't scored a PP goal all season. I doubt it's just Severson responsible for that.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

that’s coaching. The coaches job is to construct a system around the personnel. Coaches who have “their” system that they must play regardless of personnel are by and large bad coaches.

This isn’t a talent depleted roster so the big issue is coaching.

...especially after being told that "lack of talent" was the paramount reason for past underwhelming results.

Infusion of talent... same results? It doesn't follow.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

The reason Severson is terrible on the powerplay isnt because he lacks some offensive skill, it's because he's a selfish player. Takes too many terrible shots for himself when he should be making the simple pass to a forward, and those terrible shots end the PP offensive zone possession.

Hynes should have realized this eons ago, but, Hynes.

We're on the same page here, but I don't think the reason is that Severson is a "selfish player." I think he's merely playing his game, and those mistakes (possession-killing shots, telegraphed passes, etc.) are either overlooked or "not coached out of him" by the staff.

Same goes for Subban - I don't think he's a "stupid player," necessarily, but you wouldn't know that watching his highlight reel of horrendous, goal-costing pinches this year. I think it's a function of the staff not working with him to mitigate these errors; frighteningly, I wouldn't be shocked if he's being told to be over-aggressive, because "fast attacking supportive."

We have the personnel; we just don't have a coaching staff that knows how to maximize it.